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post #1 of 13 Old 05-08-2015, 08:03 PM Thread Starter
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Miller Motorsports Park one of the best tracks will be closing as of Oct 31st. I know that I am going to miss riding there one of the most fun tracks i have ever ridden. RIP. Miller you will be missed
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WTF? Why is that? A damn Shane if you ask me. Heard it was a beautiful facility

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What a drag. We've lost so many tracks here in AZ that, when they announced Firebird was closing, I was alarmed. Fortunately, it just changed names and got a new management team and is going better than ever as Wild Horse Pass. Here's hoping something like that will happen there.
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Its a shame but losing that kind of money every year one can hardly blame them.

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I am not at all surprised by this. It's unfortunate but the country just cannot sustain that many racetracks. And the location was just not very exotic or appealing. When I heard Yamaha Champion Riders School was closing up I suspected the track itself was not doing well.

There are a lot of big ideas and ways to get big money for investments but to sustain something, and provide a high-value service, is a different story. When tracks are not being used for some kind of high-profile event, they sit empty. Willow Springs Motorsports Complex, with its many different racetracks, remains the best bang for the buck nationwide if you are reasonably close. It might not be sexy but it gets the job done and is pretty close to civilization these days. That's one track I cannot imagine ever going out of business.
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What a drag. We've lost so many tracks here in AZ that, when they announced Firebird was closing, I was alarmed. Fortunately, it just changed names and got a new management team and is going better than ever as Wild Horse Pass. Here's hoping something like that will happen there.

Sadly though the new Wildhorse pass managment has let the east track deteriorate to the point that its unusable. IMHO much better than the west track and im sure the main track will never be used again 😐. There was talk of adding on to the east track and making it a longer road course. I drive by there most every day and theres nothing going on. Im thinking thats not going to happen. Luckily we have AMP. Sound restriction and all its a nice track.
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WTF? Why is that? A damn Shane if you ask me. Heard it was a beautiful facility
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Noticed that too. Too many margaritas before moderation methinks.




Sad to see Miller go, but understandable given the circumstances. Hopefully someone picks it up and can make it profitable.
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Sad to see Miller go, but understandable given the circumstances. Hopefully someone picks it up and can make it profitable.
It's likely going to be bulldozed and built over.

The nice thing about racetracks is they are easy to build. The great thing about tracks like Laguna Seca and Willow Springs is that these tracks take advantage of natural topography to create challenging and interesting configurations. The trend in the last ten or so years is to find a chunk of cheap, flat desert and throw down some pavement with little to no infrastructure. Then the weather is so heinous, and the drive so long to get there, that eventually the place loses money and has to fold up.

I had been wondering about this proliferation of racetracks sprouting up all over in the last decade or so, and now the answer seems plain. There are just too many of them.

If you take for example WSIR, 2.5-mile Main Road Course or Streets at Willow, those tracks are empty most days of the year. But for people in the general trip-county areas WSIR is a much better choice than, say, Chuckwalla or Spring Hill. Far more infrastructure, a shorter drive, and a more challenging track either way. Mastering the 2.5-mile course is the work of a lifetime for most riders and the Streets is ideal for street riders and track days.

I ain't trying to push Willow Springs over any other track, as they are all fun to ride, but it's got what a racetrack complex needs to survive: interesting tracks and the infrastructure and location to keep riders coming back. Those other tracks way out in the desert are going to have a tougher time of it.
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It's likely going to be bulldozed and built over.

The nice thing about racetracks is they are easy to build. The great thing about tracks like Laguna Seca and Willow Springs is that these tracks take advantage of natural topography to create challenging and interesting configurations. The trend in the last ten or so years is to find a chunk of cheap, flat desert and throw down some pavement with little to no infrastructure. Then the weather is so heinous, and the drive so long to get there, that eventually the place loses money and has to fold up.

I had been wondering about this proliferation of racetracks sprouting up all over in the last decade or so, and now the answer seems plain. There are just too many of them.

If you take for example WSIR, 2.5-mile Main Road Course or Streets at Willow, those tracks are empty most days of the year. But for people in the general trip-county areas WSIR is a much better choice than, say, Chuckwalla or Spring Hill. Far more infrastructure, a shorter drive, and a more challenging track either way. Mastering the 2.5-mile course is the work of a lifetime for most riders and the Streets is ideal for street riders and track days.

I ain't trying to push Willow Springs over any other track, as they are all fun to ride, but it's got what a racetrack complex needs to survive: interesting tracks and the infrastructure and location to keep riders coming back. Those other tracks way out in the desert are going to have a tougher time of it.
The only track you mentioned thats even close to the same quality as Miller is Laguna the rest are no comparison. The drive time for me is the same for Willow and Miller plus its not a hundred degrees at Miller in the summer. I believe another investment group will pick it up.

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