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post #1 of 33 Old 02-14-2014, 11:12 AM Thread Starter
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Is this a bad track day pass

I got talked to by an instructor saying that this rider complained about the pass I made at last track day. So you tell me was this to close did I pass to close or perhaps scare this rider.


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First ive never done a TD so having said that, i thought it was a real clean pass, it was inside and on the left and even though the vid is short it seems like that rider was swinging wide entering so cant see how you messed with his line. Some people simply dont like being passed:icon_rolleyes:.
Thought TD's were FOR being a little agressive?

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he was straight up and down, not tipping in, and at those speeds, hell no, totally fine pass, you had more than wingspan distance as well
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Thought TD's were FOR being a little aggressive?
that's racing. and idiots (not you, the aggro meatheads at the track) who think thats what track days are for and i yell at those idiots.

track days are for learning, of your bikes limits and increasing your riding abilities
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that's racing. and idiots (not you, the aggro meatheads at the track) who think thats what track days are for and i yell at those idiots.

track days are for learning, of your bikes limits and increasing your riding abilities
Trackdays are not about being aggressive.

Looked like a clean pass to me as well. Plenty of room given. And it was in one of those areas where it could've been a pass on the outside of the turn you were exiting, or the inside of the next turn. Didn't see anything as a close call.

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...maybe shouldnt have said agressive. But more like pushing your limits? See im learning stuff here.
Also, thought there was a rule you can only pass on one side, which looks like the correct one to me on your pass.
Maybe one day i can get to the track <sigh>

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Depends on what skill group and the rules outlined by the trackday provider. Take feedback with a grain of salt. I coach and control ride, if your an aggressive rider in a beginner group and don't have good lines I would talk to you. Based solely on the video posted and if you were in a beginner group I would say its borderline. I don't know you or how you ride, but if an instructor talked with you about your riding I have a feeling it's about more than the video posted. If that was in an intermediate group and you have good lines and demonstrate control of your bike, good pass. My $0.02

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So uhhh, where was the problem?


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What happened mid turn? Sounded like the revs completely dropped and the bike stood up. Was there contact? There looked like a little jolt to the camera.

Did the guy complain?

Without context, it looked like you initiated, got beside and then in front of him before the corner.
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It's an inside pass with plenty of room, so I would give it:
A.) Beginner group? - Dangerous, beginners are already nervous about being on the track, while the pass itself wasn't dangerous, it could spook someone new to the track when someone suddenly comes into the path they were going to take. Granted, the act itself is not dangerous per say, but the reaction it could cause is.

B.) Intermediate group? - OK. Try not to pass on the inside in intermediate, but if you do, give plenty of room, like you did. I wouldn't bust your balls on it for intermediate, but if you asked me for my opinion, I would probably suggest waiting to pass on a straight or outside of turn.

C.) Advanced group? - Not even worth mentioning. I would consider anything fair game in advanced group as long as it wasn't directly aggressive to the other rider such as stuffing them off the track or something like that.

D.) Racing? - Hell, I've actually bumped into people in turns in racing, it's all fair game as long as it's not trying to kill someone.

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