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post #1 of 20 Old 05-27-2011, 11:31 AM Thread Starter
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Nissin -vs- Tokico calipers.

After doing the Nissin over OEM Tokico calipers,I want to say oh my gosh!
My question is;what makes the Nissin so much more better than the Tokicos?
Both 4 pistons,I noticed the Nissin reccesd alot easier than the Tokicos.
Is the inner valve much bigger to push more fluid internally on the Nissin?
With the Tokicos I noticed is was more of a firm grip of the lever and she would stop.
With 100 miles around town-interstate miles,it's more of a, cover and feather the lever now.
Whats the secret?

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No one seems to know the answer, and probably no one ever will. It could be anything from the overall design of the system, to manufacturing tolerances, to the choice in materials used or simply a combination of all of the above.

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No one seems to know the answer, and probably no one ever will. It could be anything from the overall design of the system, to manufacturing tolerances, to the choice in materials used or simply a combination of all of the above.
.....i've looked for the same answer when i first got my 10 and have read and heard about every possible difference and why it is or isn't better....someone said something once about the actual pistons inside the caliper binding on the stock tokiko's.....made sense to me but then again so did alot of other reasons.

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So what year/make/model bike did you guys get the Nissin's from? Did you Re-build them or just install them? New pads? Im thinkin this will be in the near future for me as well.

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I'd love to know the answer to this too! I've just got myself a set of brand new 2009 ZX6R calipers which are going on at the weekend (onto a Gen 1).

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are the Nissin better than the 3rd gen tokiko???? cause they brake really really well...
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I got...

I got a set off ebay from KNV motorsports,$200.00 for the ZX6r calipers off an 07.
The listing stated they only fit 2nd and 3 gens,and shipping was only $14.00.
So for the toal amount i spent on brakes,I should done this earlier.
The brake shoes measured taller than my OEM original shoes,dry,clean and presented dam well.
I resanded any glaze off by hand,and reinstalled them into the caliper.
Simple...indeed...

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.....i've looked for the same answer when i first got my 10 and have read and heard about every possible difference and why it is or isn't better....someone said something once about the actual pistons inside the caliper binding on the stock tokiko's.....made sense to me but then again so did alot of other reasons.
What are the pistons made of on the gen 2?
I ask because I tried some K3 GSXR calipers on my gen 1 a while back (before I got the CBR calipers) and they worked waaaaaay better than the stockers. Myself and the guy that owned them (an ex aircraft mech) had a good look over them and came to the conclusion that the stainless ZX pistons are too thin and probably distort under load. The Gixxer calipers have thick ally pistons, otherwise the calipers seem almost identical. Now that I look back it would have been interesting to have swapped 'em out and see if that was it.....
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Well, here's another glowing testimonial for the ZX6R Nissin Calipers!

I fitted mine today and they are AWSOME!! The stock calipers were allowing me to pull the lever back to the bar. Sure they stopped me but they were as squishy as hell.

I now have 1-2 finger braking with maximum 20mm of lever travel total! I cant believe how much better they are!!

But Why?!?!

2004 ZX10R Black:'09 ZX6R Nissin Callipers, '10 ZX6R MC, HEL Braided Lines, Pazzo Shorty Levers, Rifleman's 1/5th throttle insert, '06 ZX10R Rear Calliper, R&G Crash Bungs (Forks, Rear Bobbins, Bar Ends, Frame Sliders), R&G Tail Tidy, K&N Air Filter, Cut-down Akrapovic Slip On, Acumen Digital Gear Indicator, Double Bubble Screen, Autocom Intercom

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