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post #1 of 12 Old 01-17-2005, 04:19 PM Thread Starter
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I know.. I know.. Suspention

I have fooled around with the suspention for a while and am not sure if it is the best that it can be. I have went back (searching) quite a bit on this forum and have found some good info and messed with it according to that as best I can, however if I could find someone with the same characteristics as myself that would be great.
I love to hit the twisties and am riding with a bunch of Gixers (so I want to be able to pass them more in the curves) and I know the susp. is a big deal if I could get it dialed in I would know if I needed to improve my riding ability. I am 73" and 198 in my birthday gear. Help me smoke these Zuks cause IMO I think that the susp is all I need. FYI.......We are very close now.
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post #2 of 12 Old 01-17-2005, 04:49 PM
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Since you've searched through some threads regarding suspension then you've noticed some people mention 'rider sag' being important to getting setup to your liking so while i'm not sure of your measurements for both front & rear i'll suggest some baseline sag #'s. front rider sag total W/full gear on 30-32mm...rear 28-32mm. As for the Comp & rebound those are a riders preference and should be tuned accordingly.

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I just came across this article on another forum, pretty good:

http://www.gostar-racing.com/informa...%20all%20about
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Here's what I have done - I'm a little bit heavier but not much. Stock suspension is generally too stiff in every way except rebound.

Set up rider sag as Big Daddy mentioned, this is the ONE most important thing to do. This will probably require backing out preload at both ends.

Drop front ride height by sliding forks up about 3mm in the triple clamps.

Back off front and rear compression damping, add more rear rebound damping. Exactly where it should be depends on your preferences, but this is a suggested direction.

Replace the D218 tires with *anything* else that's good.

Install a steering damper.


Helibars, MRA screen, Ohlins damper, reversed shift pattern, sorted suspension, braided lines, Michelin Pilot Power, all else stock 'coz it's fast enough!
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Go Faster said it all. Set the sag 30F/30R is what I'm using, and I've raised my rear ride height 3mm=4.5mm in the front...still stable as hell and wheelies fine.
Bike over compressioned on both ends, and under rebounded on both ends.
Add damper and smile (still waiting to order my damper, but she is starting to need it badly, hoefully friday I will order)
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Thanks everyone for your input! I am going to take all of this info and apply it in the next few days. I think I have the preload pretty close but I am going to double check that first. One last question... Is the rider sag numbers you are all talking about, measure with no rider bike off the ground (with no tention on shocks) then measure with rider in full gear balanced straight up.... or measure with no rider bike balanced straight up on ground then rider in full gear? Does that make sense? I hope I am not making this more difficult than it is.
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the first one you said.
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Sag is the difference between the suspension *completely* unloaded - i.e. with you or someone else pulling UP on the bike to make sure that the suspension is completely topped out - and the position that it is in with you sitting on the bike with all your gear on in normal riding position. Proper measurement requires 3 people ... you sitting on it, someone else to hold the bike vertical without putting any up/down force into it, and someone else to measure it!


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Sag is the difference between the suspension *completely* unloaded - i.e. with you or someone else pulling UP on the bike to make sure that the suspension is completely topped out - and the position that it is in with you sitting on the bike with all your gear on in normal riding position. Proper measurement requires 3 people ... you sitting on it, someone else to hold the bike vertical without putting any up/down force into it, and someone else to measure it!
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When it comes to taking measurements make sure its from axle center straight up to the same point each time.

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