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Question How does preload effect a bikes ability to wheelie?

How does the preload affect the ability to wheelie? Does it have any effect at all? I wonder if more makes a bike more wheelie prone or if less makes it more wheelie prone? I haven't really tried it on the ten because it is such a bitch to turn the preload collar.Any body have any Ideas about this?

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I don't know....

Having said that, I would think that the suspension settings can effect how easily the bike can be made to wheelie. For example, no rebound damping in the front end would let the weight transfer more easily to the rear. I don't know about rear preload. I understand that as you gas the bike, the rear suspension actually tries to extend due to the action of the chain and the angle of the swingarm. So I don't know how preload would effect things.

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I'm no expert... but my understanding is if you soften the preload, wheel won't come up as quickly
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yep your both right your no experts...
preload shouldn't have much effect unless it's set up grossly wrong anyhow the compression damping though..that can make a difference..soften it up and the rear spring will compress more easily. the 10 isn't the best wheelie nike I've ever owned.. the gsxr1000 was much easier to wheelie on in stock form.

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yep your both right your no experts...
preload shouldn't have much effect unless it's set up grossly wrong anyhow the compression damping though..that can make a difference..soften it up and the rear spring will compress more easily. the 10 isn't the best wheelie nike I've ever owned.. the gsxr1000 was much easier to wheelie on in stock form.

Didn't you just get your 10?

Perhaps you need more time before you make that opinion?

I find the 10 to be the easiest bike to wheelie that I have ever been on.

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Didn't you just get your 10?

Perhaps you need more time before you make that opinion?

I find the 10 to be the easiest bike to wheelie that I have ever been on.

then you need to wick up a gixxer 1000 at about 5000 in second.. my ten won't lift from there without some tugging..7-8000 maybe..
I've rode over 750 miles in less then a week on this bike...it don't wheelie if you don't want it to.. simple as that..

is you sprocket size different from stock?? if so i can see that it would wheeilie easier... i didn't say that it didn't wheelie good it's just not as easy as say a gsxr 1000 the zx doesn't have the low end that the suzuki does..

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Didn't you just get your 10?

Perhaps you need more time before you make that opinion?

I find the 10 to be the easiest bike to wheelie that I have ever been on.

by the way i see you have some nice mods done to your scoot.. what was the before and after gains you seen with your combo??

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yep your both right your no experts...
preload shouldn't have much effect unless it's set up grossly wrong anyhow the compression damping though..that can make a difference..soften it up and the rear spring will compress more easily. the 10 isn't the best wheelie nike I've ever owned.. the gsxr1000 was much easier to wheelie on in stock form.
Obviously, you belong in the no expert group as well. But your opinion is appreciated.

Ever watch a bike on a dyno. What does the rear suspension do when the bike is under load????

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Obviously, you belong in the no expert group as well. But your opinion is appreciated.

Ever watch a bike on a dyno. What does the rear suspension do when the bike is under load????

ughhh compresses...(some bikes much more then others)

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ughhh compresses...(some bikes much more then others)
Nope. Most standard bikes jack up in the back when under load on a dyno. They compress back down when the throttle is rolled off. This does not apply to bikes with non-standard geometry. Such as bikes that are lowered. And bikes with extended swingarms will exhibit less effect. That is why they launch better than bikes with standard set-ups.

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