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Has anyone ever had a problem with there GiPro gear indicator?
bought used from a forum member.
It seems to work fine in 1,2 but beyond that it's right about 50% of the time.. off by one gear. It will read 5th when in 6th, 4th may read 3 or 5, same for the rest. never reads blank and is never off by more then 1.

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Have you reprogrammed it? The Gen 1s require the GI pro to be put into learning mode. Download the instruction manual for it and follow the procedure.


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tried reprograming it.. worse then ever.. the programing was difficult, had to do it 6 times, it would flash the gear and move to the next gear before I could get it to the last gear.. In the end I had to move really fast to get it there.. but now it says 6th and then goes blank and 3 up is all over the map! I'm using a stand tried both with engine on and engine off.
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it says if you run a speedo healer, that you could have problems with correct gear display. on the healtech site, it explains how to program the unit to fix your issue. if you follow the directions it does work. Ski

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it says if you run a speedo healer, that you could have problems with correct gear display. on the healtech site, it explains how to program the unit to fix your issue. if you follow the directions it does work. Ski
Did I not just explain that I followed there instructions (section 5.3) and it failed! 6 times I followed it and it failed!

do you have a different set of instructions?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dvhtpytgtn...rsGuide_en.pdf

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sorry you are having problems but, you dont have to be nasty to anyone trying to help. the pdf you are showing us says, this set of instructions is for a Suzuki.

Try this one for the 04+ zx10r http://www.healtech-electronics.com/...rsGuide_en.pdf

you also said you tried it with both the engine off, and the engine on. this lead me to believe you didnt have, or didnt read the manual.

my non tre gear indicator instructions are a little different. i have 3 of these, 2 GiPro's, and 1 Xtype. both the GiPro's were plug and play, no issues. the X type needed programming. i set up the xtype on our road, while riding.

http://healtech-electronics.com/docs..._Manual_en.pdf

http://healtech-electronics.com/docs...rsGuide_en.pdf

take it off the stands, and go do this on a quiet street. it is ALOT easier to do this on a bike that is moving, v.s one on the stands. just be VERY CAREFUL. Ski

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sorry you are having problems but, you dont have to be nasty to anyone trying to help. the pdf you are showing us says, this set of instructions is for a Suzuki.

Try this one for the 04+ zx10r http://www.healtech-electronics.com/...rsGuide_en.pdf

you also said you tried it with both the engine off, and the engine on. this lead me to believe you didnt have, or didnt read the manual.

my non tre gear indicator instructions are a little different. i have 3 of these, 2 GiPro's, and 1 Xtype. both the GiPro's were plug and play, no issues. the X type needed programming. i set up the xtype on our road, while riding.

http://healtech-electronics.com/docs..._Manual_en.pdf

http://healtech-electronics.com/docs...rsGuide_en.pdf

take it off the stands, and go do this on a quiet street. it is ALOT easier to do this on a bike that is moving, v.s one on the stands. just be VERY CAREFUL. Ski
sorry for the tone, I'm very frustrated but that's no reason to take it out on someone who's trying to help me. I emailed Healtech last night (Saturday about 10pm) to my amazement I had a reply about 10 minutes latter.


Please go through this check list:


1) At first, please execute the Learning procedure with the bike on stand and engine RUNNING.
Make sure you see the "U" flashing after selecting 6th gear.
For setup instructions, refer to chapter 5.3 of the Manual:
http://www.healtech-electronics.com/...rsGuide_en.pdf


2) Disconnect the connectors, and make sure all connector pins are in place - not bent or pushed out of position.
Spray some contact cleaner, e.g. WD40 into the plugs.
Then reconnect and check whether all connectors are locked properly.


3) Re-route the GIpro harness on a different path, farther away from other electric cables.


4) If you can not complete the Learning process, or some gears are still indicated incorrectly, most likely your GP Sensor is
failing.

FYI, the 04/05 ZX10R has very unreliable GP sensor. It's a design issue with the sensor but the replacement sensor from Kawasaki
work fine.
Please order a replacement sensor from your local Kawasaki dealer and the unit should work fine.

Kind Regards,
/Norbert
www.healtech-electronics.com



Side note: I have found that setting the unit to default works better then the "Learn" but I am going to look into replacing the GP Sensor
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Hi there,

This problem sounds exact like the one I had with my GIpro indicator.

The problem lies in the shift drum............... yes the shift drum !
The way GIpro works it's reading the walues from the gear position switch which is basiclly different resistor for each gear. The current runs from ECU throu the gear position switch but then grounds throu the shift drum.
Shift drum is a large metal part theat touches other metal parts and the resistance should be very low but then I messured mine with multimeter it was all over the place.... jumping from 1 Ohm to few hundreds ohm, if you put some pressure on the shift drum like pressing on the shift lever then it shows reliable reading. Specially in higher gears the difference between gears becomes less so those gears are more affected to be displayed wrong.
My theory is that oil deposits act like an insulator and the shift drum isn't a reliable grounding anymore.

Hope this helps.

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Hi there,

This problem sounds exact like the one I had with my GIpro indicator.

The problem lies in the shift drum............... yes the shift drum !
The way GIpro works it's reading the walues from the gear position switch which is basiclly different resistor for each gear. The current runs from ECU throu the gear position switch but then grounds throu the shift drum.
Shift drum is a large metal part theat touches other metal parts and the resistance should be very low but then I messured mine with multimeter it was all over the place.... jumping from 1 Ohm to few hundreds ohm, if you put some pressure on the shift drum like pressing on the shift lever then it shows reliable reading. Specially in higher gears the difference between gears becomes less so those gears are more affected to be displayed wrong.
My theory is that oil deposits act like an insulator and the shift drum isn't a reliable grounding anymore.

Hope this helps.

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You have a bad gear Position switch and not a bad shift drum. The ecu doesn't get grounded by a drum, it gets grounded by a gear position sensor.
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