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post #1 of 15 Old 04-11-2011, 02:01 PM Thread Starter
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is it the front brakes?

ok so i just completely upgraded my 04 10r with the front zx-14 calipers, galfer gp ss lines, and a zx-14 master. as for the rear, just put some speigler ss lines on it. today was the first time i got to take my baby out for a ride. it felt amazing honestly to finally get back out there. so as i was riding, i ran into a spot where i had to brake abruptly and when i pulled the lever i was braking but it didn't feel like it was biting super hard. so i go to use the rear brake and that shit locks up in miliseconds and my rear is swerving all over the place so i let up and then re apply, same thing happens lol. this happened to me twice today actually. i was able to get out of the situations clearly, but why didn't the front brakes bite. obviously the rear brake is much more resposnive because i don't think i ever locked up the rear wheel twice in one ride. when i bled the front i didn't see any air bubbles but the only thing i can think of is that after i was all done, i noticed my line was touching the rim. with the bleeder nipple closed, i loosened the screw to re-adjust for a split second, did that let air back into the system? do i need to re-bleed or is it possible that the mc i have is no bueno? i can always count on my guru's! TIA
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What pads are you running in the front? Are they new or did they come in the calipers you bought? The setup you describe should be close to locking the front with anything more than 2 fingers on the lever. It's just that good of a setup. What you're describing on the front sounds like the pads are poor or not seated to the rotors yet.

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Yeah that's what i've been told and I can see how great the back breaks got from just the ss lines. I kept the stock pads in the calipers because they only had 1100 miles on them. I did noticed all new lines on the rotors, how long should it take to seat in?
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air still in the lines...
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I'd say it is a combination of the two, but mostly air is still in there somewhere. I'd rebleed them and see how it feels.

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is the lever firm or does it go most of the wayto the handlebar?? if goes pretty far probably air in the lines, if its firm the pads arent bedded in yet. give them maybe 50-100 miles.
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I have yana shikki levers and I the brake setting lever I use is 5 so it only come with in 2 inches of the handle bar, that didn't seems to bad but I just put it to 1 and with a strong grip I can get it to like a 1/2 inch from the grip so looks like we solved the problem here lol ill re-bleed and report back
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u can bleed the banjo bolts and also tapping everything with a wrench will free up air bubble..
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Ok so I rebled the system and there is definitely air in the system. In fact, there was a considerable amount. It does not want to leave though. I want to drain the entire system And start from scratch. I have a few questions though; first, does it matter the order I bleed the system eg calipers before master or visa versa? Second, can I re use the fluid that comes out of the system?
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