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Question Clutch Squealing when stopping

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Ok, Here is my problem...
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No slipping of the clutch, none what so ever.
High RPM launch, low, wide open throttle, it's all good.

When I am slowing down to come to a stop.
(In 1st gear) With the clutch lever pulled in,
It's frigging squealing like a brake pad does. WTFO

Other than that, It has no other issues at all.

Does not do it in any other gears, only in 1st when slowing to a stop,
and going slow (in 1st) and pulling in the clutch.

Any ideas fellas ?

I've been reading up on the clutch threads, seen a loose hub nut,
worn fiber plates and what not.

Could it be the judder plate??

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Have you opened the clutch and looked at it? My first thought is the back torque limiter (judder spring) is too weak now and causing the clutch plates to slip in reverse a little bit under engine braking. But that wouldnt happen unless you were actually engine braking, not with the lever pulled. So my next place to look would be the little bearing that the clutch release lever rides on. You may be getting some metal-to-metal contact there that's causing it to gall up. If that were happening, it's likely to be doing it all the time when the clutch is pulled, but you may not be hearing it until you get slow enough in first gear.

Gonna be hard to diagnose though without pulling the cover and looking for obvious signs of a problem.

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Have you opened the clutch and looked at it? My first thought is the back torque limiter (judder spring) is too weak now and causing the clutch plates to slip in reverse a little bit under engine braking. But that wouldnt happen unless you were actually engine braking, not with the lever pulled. So my next place to look would be the little bearing that the clutch release lever rides on. You may be getting some metal-to-metal contact there that's causing it to gall up. If that were happening, it's likely to be doing it all the time when the clutch is pulled, but you may not be hearing it until you get slow enough in first gear.

Gonna be hard to diagnose though without pulling the cover and looking for obvious signs of a problem.
10-4 You talking about this one pictured below?
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Pull the cover and check the hub, pack, etc. Thats gonna be the easiest way to see. Im pretty sure what SkyDork is talking about is the bearing as all. When was your last oil change?

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MY Gen 4 did that exact thing. I ended up putting a new clutch in. It stopped the sound. I put in new plates and fibers nothing else.
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Yeah, that's the bearing I'm talking about in the diagram above.

Tuner7's experience with changing the plates out doesn't make sense to me because it's not slipping under power. But that's not to say, it's not the problem. It very well could be. But before I swapped out the pack like that, I'd have a look at the other components.

It wouldn't be a bad thing either if you re-oiled the plates to help make sure they aren't dried out excessively. If doing this helped quiet it down, you can then turn your attention there as the likely culprit.

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Had the same squeal when I had clutch issues with my gen 1. Turned out to be the bearing SkyDork showed u. Although I had to replace the bearing and the rod and the pull rod (whatever it is called but the vertical rod that hooks to the cable). The sooner u pull that clutch cover off the better cause if the bearing's going bad those rods will start shaving off and all that's gonna be in ur oil..
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Had the same squeal when I had clutch issues with my gen 1. Turned out to be the bearing SkyDork showed u. Although I had to replace the bearing and the rod and the pull rod (whatever it is called but the vertical rod that hooks to the cable). The sooner u pull that clutch cover off the better cause if the bearing's going bad those rods will start shaving off and all that's gonna be in ur oil..
Yeah, if the throw-out bearing is bad, it's most likely chewing into the throw rod (part 46102 in the diagram) and that should be replaced along with the bearing. Depending on how soon you catch it, it may or may not affect the actuator rod that goes into the clutch cover. You should inspect that to make sure the area that grabs the throw rod is not gouged or de-formed at all.

And as Dude stated, metal shavings can get into the oil if you have metal-to-metal contact going on. The filter and oil pickup screens would filter these out, but it's best if you catch it early and thoroughly clean out the clutch housing. If you find any and are anal/paranoid, then the next step would be to drop the oil pan and clean the metal oil pickup screen and pan out good.

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Thanks fellas,
I recently changed my oil and filter approx 5 to 600 hundred miles ago.
So there shouldn't be much debris in the oil in that short amount of time.

And I took it for a test ride today and I listened carefully.
It is making that squeal noise in all gears when I pull in the clutch.
So yes, I agree with you SkyDork,
I think it is that bearing.
I'm gonna order the rod and bearing.

Thank you so much for your help.

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Hope that's the issue and you get it resolved right quick.

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