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post #1 of 154 Old 12-29-2005, 11:36 AM Thread Starter
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Cheap gear postion switch indicator

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I am considering now to purchase gear position indicator for my track days(Acumen or digitool)

I read the wokshop manual and found very interesting information...there is already a gear indicator in bone stock ZR10R bike !!! GREAT

In those commercial devices there is a slight delay when the acumen or digitool is calculating the gear info from speed and rev information...

BUT NOW WE HAVE ALREADY THE CORRECT INFORMATION IN SOME ELECTRIC WIRES !!! Now I need only an ordinary electric numeral indicator...

See attached copy from the ZX10R work shop manual...there is different voltage for each gear in certain electrick wire !

Any experience yet ???
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MAn that seems like someone with a elcetrical engineer background could make a adapter for the wiring harness and program a ic chip to display a gear # when corresponding voltages are input.

I wonder if it is possible and if it can be done cheaper. I know with the digi and accumen that if you ahve a speedohealer andchange the correction ratio you ahve to retrain the gear indicators.

This would be alot simplier and easy.
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Cool but won't work for those of us with TRE's.

Sarah Palin and friends can call it a snow machine all they want but Yamaha, Polaris and Bombardier plus the related magazines all seem to call them Snowmobiles.

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Why is that, Ivans TRE has nothing to do with the gear postion indicator.
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Why is that, Ivans TRE has nothing to do with the gear postion indicator.
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Somebody get this worked out cause I want to do it!




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Why is that, Ivans TRE has nothing to do with the gear postion indicator.
Why did I hook it up to my gear position indicator? It's not an Ivan's TRE but still.

From Ivan's, I know he's talking about Suzuki but....
What the manufacturer has done is to make a SEPARATE IGNITION MAP FOR EACH GEAR.
This has been done for either safety and/or emissions reasons. However, it limits the power and smoothness of your bike in the first 1/2 turn of the throttle in gears 1 through 4.


They were clever in the design of this timing retarder. It still allows full timing at full throttle. As you shift up through the gears, the amount of throttle needed to access the advance curve decreases, until you make it into 5th gear and then it's gone. You have nice, smooth operation. Wouldn't you like your bike to respond just as smoothly in the lower gears?















Sarah Palin and friends can call it a snow machine all they want but Yamaha, Polaris and Bombardier plus the related magazines all seem to call them Snowmobiles.

Snow machines create snow on ski slopes. Just sayin'

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I called and talked to Ivan a couple of months ago about his TRE. The one for the Zuks reads and tricks the ECM from the gear position indicator because that is where their retard program comes from.

From what Ivan told me, the Kawasaki TRE is to bypass the fuel cutoff when you chop the throttle and the open it again which causes the abruptness and jerking when on/off the throttle. It is more of a emmissions bypass then a ign retard like the zuks.

on the edit...hence you quoted something from his site about Suzuki's and how they are setup. If you doubt what I am saying then call him, if I am wrong then I will admit it but I am very technological person and understand alot of the programming things that are doen and how they work.

I have seen the fuel cutoff on the dyno, it shows up in the A/F on the powercommander program and after talking to him in detail about it correlates to what he told me when I talked to him about this issue.

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Do you have a TRE? I installed mine and it connects to the gear position indicator wires that the guy who started this thread was referring to. Also rotated the sub throttle sensor forward as per instructions.

Again mine is a Dannos Perf TRE but I think He copied Ivan. I had it before I knew of this site or Ivan.

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