Ceramic Bearing Solution for Carrozzeria's - Kawasaki ZX-10R.net
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 9 Old 09-02-2014, 12:15 PM Thread Starter
GP Star
 
STEALTH-FIGHTER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 4,167
Posting Frequency
      
Ceramic Bearing Solution for Carrozzeria's

Does anyone know of a place that makes good ceramic bearings for the Carrozzeria V-Track wheels?
I'm having Woodcraft look into this for me, since they make ceramic bearings and I know they make good quality products, though the rep there said that she's unaware if they have made any for this wheel yet.
Are there better options for quality ceramics out there that have already made them for these specific wheels?

What is best in life?..
TO CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, TO SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU, AND TO HEAR THE LAMENTATIONS OF THEIR WOMEN.
STEALTH-FIGHTER is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 9 Old 09-02-2014, 02:40 PM Thread Starter
GP Star
 
STEALTH-FIGHTER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 4,167
Posting Frequency
      
Ok, so I have the bearing info on these wheels (As does Woodcraft now) in case anyone else has these and wants to know.
Carrozzeria V-Track standard sized wheels for 2011 ZX10R:
Front wheel: 2 total bearings, part #'s are-
6205-2RS
Rear Wheel: 3 total bearings (two sprocket side, one rotor), part #'s are-
6006-2RS

What is best in life?..
TO CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, TO SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU, AND TO HEAR THE LAMENTATIONS OF THEIR WOMEN.
STEALTH-FIGHTER is offline  
post #3 of 9 Old 09-02-2014, 03:19 PM
Chairman of the Board
 
or10r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 15,992
Posting Frequency
Images: 17
           
Garage
Ive heard a few guys usung these...

http://www.microblueracing.com/new-l...-products.html

I didnt check to see if they fit the Carrozzerias though.

or10r is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 9 Old 09-02-2014, 04:49 PM Thread Starter
GP Star
 
STEALTH-FIGHTER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 4,167
Posting Frequency
      
Ceramic Bearing Solution for Carrozzeria's

Quote:
Originally Posted by or10r View Post
Ive heard a few guys usung these...



http://www.microblueracing.com/new-l...-products.html



I didnt check to see if they fit the Carrozzerias though.

Thanks or10r, I called them but they're already closed for the day.
Got word back from Woodcraft on pricing. $405. Sound a little steep? Maybe for the 3rd rear bearing?
I thought most were getting these things for around $300?
Can anyone tell me if most A.M. rims have 3 bearings in the rear?

What is best in life?..
TO CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, TO SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU, AND TO HEAR THE LAMENTATIONS OF THEIR WOMEN.
STEALTH-FIGHTER is offline  
post #5 of 9 Old 09-02-2014, 08:42 PM
Custom Powder Coater
 
06blackpearl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 6,556
Posting Frequency
Images: 70
           
Price is right .. Or at least from the few I got for people...
Check www.worldwidebearings.com

www.sportbikepc.com
Sport Bike Powder Coating,LLC
Custom Powder Coating & Authorized Dealer for:
ASV Levers,Brocks Performance,Carrozzeria Wheels,Core Moto Brake Lines, EarthX Batteries,Sato Racing, SuperSprox..
PM or [email protected] for pricing..
06blackpearl is offline  
post #6 of 9 Old 09-02-2014, 11:20 PM Thread Starter
GP Star
 
STEALTH-FIGHTER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 4,167
Posting Frequency
      
Ceramic Bearing Solution for Carrozzeria's

Quote:
Originally Posted by 06blackpearl View Post
Price is right .. Or at least from the few I got for people...
Check www.worldwidebearings.com
Edited: Corrected wrong bearing info..

Thanks blackpearl, I have been researching the hell outta these things today. I'm liking what I've been reading about Micro Blue and their coatings they add that "change the way lubricants work", keeping them contaminant free longer, reducing friction/heat even more, increasing longevity.
I read that the ceramic ball bearings are about 3x stronger & 60% lighter than their SS counterpart (a general consensus), though elsewhere, I read that if they're taken past their point of fatigue then they can all just shatter instead of one or two slowly grinding down as with the steel ones. Though that seems like disinformation to me, since ceramic bearings are just SS balls inside a ceramic coating. Maybe they're speaking of the actual coating breaking down? Just speculating some..
There was more info about "full ceramic" bearings (ceramic races & bearings) in other articles/forums, though it appears that they are not recommended at all for the demands of wheels, because they don't have the strength required.
Really, there are articles and opinions all over the place with this stuff. It's hard to determine what is honestly the best choice. I know either full ceramics Or hybrids are much lighter than the traditional steel bearings, taking less force to turn, thereby improving performance and decreasing friction/heat, either way you go. One guy that tested this stuff said he was seeing gains of about 3-4 HP, but about 5 lbs in torque with a 1000cc bike (GSXR I believe), when swapping the same wheel for hybrid ceramic bearings. Though the felt effects of acceleration, braking and flicking the bike into turns is supposedly quite noticeable.
So, anyone that really knows about this stuff, feel free to chime in. Gotta get the ball rolling, so to speak, asap. I want to make a purchase tomorrow if I can get the info I need to make an informed purchase. Gonna keep diggin away for now.........

What is best in life?..
TO CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, TO SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU, AND TO HEAR THE LAMENTATIONS OF THEIR WOMEN.

Last edited by STEALTH-FIGHTER; 09-06-2014 at 01:05 AM.
STEALTH-FIGHTER is offline  
post #7 of 9 Old 09-03-2014, 04:14 AM
Chairman of the Board
 
or10r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 15,992
Posting Frequency
Images: 17
           
Garage
Its kind of the old "what synthetic oil" issue really. I mean in your mind you know just about any of the top brands will be more than adequate still you want to make the right choice for your own personal application. Bump to help you decide.

or10r is offline  
post #8 of 9 Old 09-03-2014, 11:55 AM Thread Starter
GP Star
 
STEALTH-FIGHTER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 4,167
Posting Frequency
      
Ceramic Bearing Solution for Carrozzeria's

Quote:
Originally Posted by or10r View Post
Its kind of the old "what synthetic oil" issue really. I mean in your mind you know just about any of the top brands will be more than adequate still you want to make the right choice for your own personal application. Bump to help you decide.

Exactly right. Just looking for the best quality.
So today I called Micro Blue and discussed the details in good depth with Craig and I decided to go with these guys. I guess I had some things mixed up about what type they offer. World Wide Bearings actually supplies bearings to Micro Blue. They then add their coating to them there. Micro Blue sells "hybrid" cerbic bearings (steel races, ceramic balls), not the full ceramics, that don't offer the same strength and safety. They also said they have not encountered any instance of their coating ever failing. As long as there is a good seal, to prevent brake dust from contaminating the lube, they should perform as expected indefinitely.
So they gave me a great price (which I probably shouldn't list here) on a full set with lube. Getting them made now and should be shipping today! I'm stoked!

Thanks for the tips or10r and 06blackpearl!

What is best in life?..
TO CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, TO SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU, AND TO HEAR THE LAMENTATIONS OF THEIR WOMEN.

Last edited by STEALTH-FIGHTER; 09-06-2014 at 01:08 AM.
STEALTH-FIGHTER is offline  
post #9 of 9 Old 09-03-2014, 02:05 PM
Chairman of the Board
 
or10r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 15,992
Posting Frequency
Images: 17
           
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by STEALTH-FIGHTER View Post
Exactly right. Just looking for the best quality.
So today I called Micro Blue and discussed the details in good depth with Craig and I decided to go with these guys. I guess I had some things mixed up about what type they offer. World Wide Bearings actually supplies bearings to Micro Blue. They then add their coating to them there. Micro Blue sells hybrid "cerbic" bearings (steel races, ceramic balls), not the full ceramics, that don't offer the same strength and safety. They also said they have not encountered any instance of their coating ever failing. As long as there is a good seal, to prevent brake dust from contaminating the lube, they should perform as expected indefinitely.
So they gave me a great price (which I probably shouldn't list here) on a full set with lube. Getting them made now and should be shipping today! I'm stoked!

Thanks for the tips or10r and 06blackpearl!

Very cool man! Now I have my bearing lesson for the day as well. Lol.

or10r is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Kawasaki ZX-10R.net forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Gen 4: Useful solution ARK10R The ZX-10R 11 07-14-2013 09:46 PM
Gen 1: rear wheel bearing/cush drive bearing question blink. The ZX-10R 2 08-25-2011 02:58 PM
Ceramic Bearing Test THE ICE MAN Performance and Tech 57 01-09-2008 10:07 AM
for those that want an HID solution 2wheeler The ZX-10R 0 05-31-2007 06:42 PM
the mirror solution... Older Guy The ZX-10R 23 11-24-2006 06:49 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome