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Another Suspension Thread I'm Afraid

Hi All,

My 04 10 is still on stock settings and i was thinking about fiddling with the suspension this weekend, i've reada loads of threads on here and i think i've got my head round how it all works now.

However, a friend has just bought an 04 10 and is fairly handy with suspension and has suggested the following

"You weigh about the same as me (150 Pounds), not good when the suspension is already
hard. Are you saying the bike oversteers, because the first thing I noticed
when I rode mine back from Peterbog was how it fell into slow corners
(roundabouts etc.) It's setup for fast smooth sweepers as std. I should
think.

I would start with setting the sag to see if the spring rate is soft enough,
if not it may be best just to go straight for a replacement shock. If the
sag can be setup OK, I would back the compression right off and reduce the
rebound to mid travel. It is better to start soft and gradually increase
damping until it gets too harsh. It's never gonna handle our roads perfectly
but as long as it doesn't buck and slap all the time it should be OK.

Dropping the forks 3mm would put more weight on the front but might make it
oversteer even more, if that is the problem."

Do you guys agree with what hes saying?

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Hi All,

My 04 10 is still on stock settings and i was thinking about fiddling with the suspension this weekend, i've reada loads of threads on here and i think i've got my head round how it all works now.

However, a friend has just bought an 04 10 and is fairly handy with suspension and has suggested the following

"You weigh about the same as me (150 Pounds), not good when the suspension is already
hard. Are you saying the bike oversteers, because the first thing I noticed
when I rode mine back from Peterbog was how it fell into slow corners
(roundabouts etc.) It's setup for fast smooth sweepers as std. I should
think.

I would start with setting the sag to see if the spring rate is soft enough,
if not it may be best just to go straight for a replacement shock. If the
sag can be setup OK, I would back the compression right off and reduce the
rebound to mid travel. It is better to start soft and gradually increase
damping until it gets too harsh. It's never gonna handle our roads perfectly
but as long as it doesn't buck and slap all the time it should be OK.

Dropping the forks 3mm would put more weight on the front but might make it
oversteer even more, if that is the problem."

Do you guys agree with what hes saying?

Dark


Read this thread ( https://zx-10r.net/forum/showthread.p...ight=black+art )

Really good info in there, it will help you to understand how your suspension works and how to adjust for what you want.........

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I've been told the rates are actually okay for your weight although I felt they were too hard for me at 155 w/o gear.
The rear shock should be swapped if you have the time and rearsets that allow you to suspend the bike from the pegs. Back that compression way out on the 10r, it is stiff as anything. I'd leave the rebound as is until you can allow the bike to absorb bumps rather than hitting them and then assess how you think it returns or rebounds.
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Thanks for the replies guys, i'll have a play as soon as i can find someone to assist me in setting my sag
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I started altering the suspension settings this weekend, backed the preload off front and rear until i got 30mm of sag, backed the compression off to minimum and it felt a lot better. Haven't touched the rebound yet, and i need to put some tie wraps on the forks to check they aren't bottoming, but getting there i think.
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This may sound like a strange request, but the general guidelines state that you should set your sag (with rider) between 25mm and 35mm.

But how many of you are running the same amount of sag front and rear?
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I need to go on a diet, 150-155, wow.

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This may sound like a strange request, but the general guidelines state that you should set your sag (with rider) between 25mm and 35mm.

But how many of you are running the same amount of sag front and rear?
i doubt there are many that run the same f&r but its possible.

You can read many different threads and websites about suspension setups for certain sized riders but in the end they are all guidlines or recomendations and until you find what works for you and your riding its all a guess.

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the rear spring rate the comes stock is for a 185lbs rider this sucks for most people especially me I am 210 even a aftermarket ohlins has to have the spring changed for me but basically so far i have found out that this bike gets a big on setting the suspension it is so touchy but hopefully this will change when my bitubo forks and superbike shock gets here
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