Yeah, its a 2nd generation (2007) and as I said, its got new ss lines, the cbr conversion calipers, but I have a mechanical bleeder and its been bled methodically. As a matter of fact, it was bled the same as a CBR and two Gixxers I do maintenance on. And the brakes on those scooters are flawless. So if there's a trick, ie something only mechanics know, wouldn't that be kinda ridiculous and at some level a liability? Either way, it is of my opinion that the pads are good! The calipers are good! The lines are good! And I think the MC is junk! Radial or non-radial.. The reason I think so is because the MC forces the fluid through the lines to force the piston cups out towards one another sandwiching the rotor causing friction resulting in the wheel to stop, I think we all agree to this point. But as you pull on the lever, you can feel dead space for a good bit (which I admit, could also be misconceived as air in the line). But all of a sudden the brakes bite! Also what baffles me is that I can pump on em a couple of times and reduce the dead play in the lever. Again, this would suggest a bleed issue or air trapped somewhere in the lines or calipers. But why do none of these issues arise with the other bikes I mentioned? Only part I haven't changed is the MC and it seems everyone is swearing by the calipers, so...I don't know.. So if I am missing something, please educate me. By the way, my lines double off the MC and Single to each caliper instead of single out off the MC and split off the right side caliper!