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post #1 of 12 Old 03-08-2009, 09:16 PM Thread Starter
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I am running stock pads on my 04 636 and I feel like my braking is holding me back. I ride with some pretty fast guys (expert class racers)who are on vesrah's and they kick my butt on the brakes. my question is do the pads make that much difference or do I just need more experience? any braking tips,for the track obviously.
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I am running stock pads on my 04 636 and I feel like my braking is holding me back. I ride with some pretty fast guys (expert class racers)who are on vesrah's and they kick my butt on the brakes. my question is do the pads make that much difference or do I just need more experience? any braking tips,for the track obviously.
My experience with the 636 is that the calipers suck. Most everyone I know has switched out the calipers with R1 brakes or something else better. You can get that stuff off of ebay for cheap.

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Can't speck to your experience level, but yes vesrah pads are that much better.
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post #4 of 12 Old 03-10-2009, 10:48 AM
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I keep hearing of Vesrah, but compared to galfer, brembo, EBC? How much better are they in comparison? I'm looking into Vesrah pads for my 636 for the track when I purchase it. How much does an average set of Vesrah race pads cost f/r?
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Skill and experience make the greatest difference. That being said, well bled steel braided lines and aftermarket pads will help. I like Vesrah RJLs.

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Another option that I would recommend is the Carbone Lorraine C55 pads. They seem to be easier to find (in stock) than the Vesrah pads and I absolutely love them.
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The best pads in the world will not make up for fEar of the brakes! You need seat time! I feel i'm one, if not the best on brakes at my track if i can catch you sleeping on the brakes, your getting passed! I was not born with this i just learned it over time and the knowledge that that’s how you win races!
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The best pads in the world will not make up for fEar of the brakes! You need seat time! I feel i'm one, if not the best on brakes at my track if i can catch you sleeping on the brakes, your getting passed! I was not born with this i just learned it over time and the knowledge that that’s how you win races!
This is true. I have noticed that most "slower" riders are actually losing most of their time because they are getting on the brakes earlier and lighter, allowing others to out-brake them.

That being said, I do feel it is very important to have good pads. Brake fade is certain to lower the confidence level of even the best rider.
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...well....do you feel that there is something -wrong- with your brakes? If the lever isn't coming back to the bar, you have decent bite, and they don't fade badly, there's probably nothing wrong with them. :) Seat time and body position is worth more than good brake pads, so long as you still have lever left to pull.

A lot of the fast guys I know at the track run (modern) stock pads just fine. The newer kawi 6R brakes are freaking fantastic when bled properly. The only reason a lot of us switch to aftermarket pads is that they're easier to get... and sometimes cheaper than stock stuff!

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post #10 of 12 Old 03-21-2009, 08:56 PM
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I always liked Dunlopads for the track. Are you carry as much corner speed as you can?? Maybe your on the brakes too much compared to your friends.
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