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post #1 of 15 Old 02-25-2007, 11:09 PM Thread Starter
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Not enough riding skills

Ok... here is the story. I have been riding for a few years. Started out with a $400 Ninja 500, which I restored and really really like, and also got a '76 Honda last year which I like too. I took the MSF class two years ago and took it again with my wife last year. I don't think I'm the best rider out there but I do think I know the basics of riding and can ride safely in traffic and on the freeway.

Now, my buddy has been riding a few years too, but he hardly has any miles under his belt and hasn't taken a class like MSF before and doesn't seem to really know what he's doing on the ride. Like, in curves, instead of following a smooth path through the curve he'll lean over a bit, stand up straight, then when he's hitting the edge of his lane he'll lean it over again.

He just bought a new ZX-10R, as did I. His last bike was a Katana 600 which he only rode a few hundred miles and he sold over a year ago. I am really worried he is gonna get hurt.

Does anyone have any tips/ideas for talking to a friend about this? The problem is, I can't just go around telling my friend I am a better rider than he is. He grew up w/ dirt bikes and used to race street cars back in the day so he has a lot of confidence in his skills. I think he could be a great rider too, I am just scared whenever I ride behind him in the curves!!

What can I do??
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post #2 of 15 Old 02-26-2007, 01:17 AM
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1st. Always stay behind him in the curves. Can you put a life insurance policy on your buddy?
Suggest taking some track days together? Safety courses? Maybe put lots of miles on the open road to get the old riding legs of your buddy warmed up?
Me personally, I would tell him that his riding scares the hell out of me, and that he needs to work on his riding skills. It's not a fun ride if you are worried about your riding buddy getting hurt. Be safe out there.

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I been thru the same problem with a buddy of mine (rydes a r6) who has been ryding for 2 years now without a license or a permit. He's bit it a couple of times but he still keeps ryding dangerously at times (stuntin) sometimes on canyon straights and of course on the streets. When I bought my ZX10R he wanted one too but, I told him he was "gonna die" because of his bad habits ryding. He thought about it and now he wants to get his M license do a couple of track days with me before he upgrades to a 1 liter. Just be str8 honest with your friend and be serious when you tell him what you think. Good Luck

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Honesty is the best. I agree, tell him it scares the hell out of you to see him do some of the stuff he does. MSF, track days, and time will help his skills. If he doesn't improve at least he'll get feedback from others (instructors) and maybe not think he's the next Nicky. Dirt bikes and cars are very different to high performance street bikes.

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Tell it like it is, before you wish you had.
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MSF course and the advance course then track days. do not have him ride during busy times with a lot of cars on the rode. Do not take crazy canyons cause if he does spill it could be bad. I think once he gets a track day down he should be ok with his turning. just tell your buddy he needs to chill out and take it smooth and that your already impressed by him he doesnt need to try and show off.

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Originally Posted by FAF
Tell it like it is, before you wish you had.
and there ya have it folks, don't forget to tip your waitresses on your way out!
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Originally Posted by FAF
Tell it like it is, before you wish you had.

so true, but hopefully he will listen. so many don't.

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Even the most experienced of riders can go down, but it pays to educate yourself and get some training. Dirt experience is good, but it's not the street.
Here we go again:

Mandatory reading! Oh, and I've met way too many riders that don't have a clue what counter steering is.

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