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This is taken from Sportrider WRT to the graph.

Moly is often referred to as a friction modifier, but it is actually a solid metal dispersed in some oils. Because it has such a high melting temperature (4730 F versus 2795 F for iron), it works great as a high-temperature, high-pressure antiwear agent. Some claim that because moly is so slick, it can cause clutch slippage. In fact, some motorcycle manufacturers specify oil without moly due to this problem. The moly issue is such that Honda offers its HP4 both with and without it. Looking at the moly graph data, however, shows that even Honda's "moly-free" product contains 71 ppm. Many of the products contain less than five ppm of moly, which is the threshold measurement on this test (meaning any amount less than five ppm will not be detected). Both Torco oils contain a significant dose of moly, while the Maxum Ultra and Motul 300V Factory contain far less. The Mobil 1 automotive oil contains 92 ppm, while the MX4T motorcycle-specific version has an undetectable amount. Only six of the 19 motorcycle oils we tested use moly at all. Those that do, however, average 298 ppm. Considering that many oils contain five ppm or less, 298 ppm is a significant dose.


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And that there is exactly why I ahve used Mobile 1 MX4T in my my bikes for years now...
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I just bought some yesterday!! @ $8 a bottle!!
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This is taken from Sportrider WRT to the graph.

Because it has such a high melting temperature (4730 F versus 2795 F for iron), it works great as a high-temperature, high-pressure antiwear agent.
They didn't actually write this did they? Iron melts at 2795??? Molybdenum at 4730???? Dude, based on that, I wouldn't believe a word the rest of that article says. Friggen idiots.
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They didn't actually write this did they? Iron melts at 2795??? Molybdenum at 4730???? Dude, based on that, I wouldn't believe a word the rest of that article says. Friggen idiots.
I'm not trying to step on anyones toes, but those numbers are correct. They are in fahenheit degrees.
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Iron melts at nearly 3000 deg F? Holy crap! Never would have guessed! <-not sarcasm, just honest surprise

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Dudes, I run a foundry and I can tell you Iron melts waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay befor reaching 3000 degrees. We pour iron and we also pour alloy steel and use moly all the time. We pour white iron (chrome and moly) at about 2850 F, regular cast iron is about 2700 F. Chrome moly steel is poured at 2950 F to 3050 F (max!). You couldn't safely get the shit hot enough to melt if had to be that at that temp. I call bullshit.
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MELTING POINT Name Sym #

1808K 1535C 2795F Iron Fe 26
1812K 1539C 2802F Scandium Sc 21
1818K 1545C 2813F Thulium Tm 69
1825K 1552C 2826F Palladium Pd 46
1933K 1660C 3020F Titanium Ti 22
1936K 1663C 3025F Lutetium Lu 71
2028K 1755C 3191F Thorium Th 90
2045K 1772C 3222F Platinum Pt 78
2113K 1600C 2912F ProtactiniumPa 91
2125K 1852C 3366F Zirconium Zr 40
2130K 1857C 3375F Chromium Cr 24
2175K 1902C 3456F Vanadium V 23
2239K 1966C 3571F Rhodium Rh 45
2473K 2200C 3992F Technetium Tc 43
2500K 2227C 4041F Hafnium Hf 72
2523K 2250C 4082F Ruthenium Ru 44
2573K 2300C 4172F Boron B 5
2716K 2443C 4429F Iridium Ir 77
2741K 2468C 4474F Niobium Nb 41
2890K 2617C 4743F MolybdenumMo 42

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According to Butler Labs Mobil 1 MX4T contain 91 ppm of Moly.
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