The 450r's run close with a raptor til about 70mph. They are much lighter and handle well like most hondas. You can get a Honda 400EX for cheap. They have jug kit that will take it to a 440 but those have head gasket issues. My buddy wanted reliablity on his so he dropped some stage 1 cams and hi compression piston it haven't broken yet but it requires 110 octane. He gets his out maybe twice a year so the extra fuel cost doesn't concern him. The cams make it a little high strung for trails but it rips up the dunes and creek beds.
I will always be partial to 86-89 Honda TRX 250R's. That is what I learned on when I was 9. I now have an 89 and miss the long swing arm of the 86 that I learned on. I guess people bitched about the first one understeering and was unresponsive but it hammer the gas it will rotate. I can remember 120 lbs ago going lock to lock fishtailing at 70mph on asphalt. Good times.
I guess it depends on what your budget is.
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