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post #1 of 24 Old 08-25-2015, 10:34 PM Thread Starter
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Removing PAIR system vs. block-off plates

Hey, just wanted to get some peoples opinions on this.

I have a set of block-off plates that I haven't installed yet, and was wondering if it's worth it to just remove the PAIR (clean air) system instead. I have a woolich, so I can disable the FI light for the system after I remove it. But am mostly curious how much weight savings removing it will give, as well as relative difficulty/amount of time to remove it.

Also, I live overseas, but once I go back to the states I'd imagine I'll have to get an emissions test to register the bike, and am not sure if removing the PAIR basically guarantees it will fail.

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The weight saving is well.. very little.

Probably best for you to just pull the LH tank panel and disconnect the pipe to the airbox and block both ends. A lot less work to start with and if for some reason it show's up on a roadworthy test, which I doubt.. Easy quick fix to put back together.

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It's not a PAIR system on kawasaki. It's a KLEEN system. Installing block off plates is the same thing as removing the stuff. It's the whole purpose of it. You can't remove the KLEEN stuff without plugging or using the block off plates.
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It's not a PAIR system on kawasaki. It's a KLEEN system. Installing block off plates is the same thing as removing the stuff. It's the whole purpose of it. You can't remove the KLEEN stuff without plugging or using the block off plates.
Was about to ask a dumb question, but after looking closer at the service manual I see what's going on here.

I appreciate your help, and I had looked at the manual prior to posting, but the black and white pictures weren't too obvious since I've only been under the tank a couple times and wasn't paying any attention to that area.
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I wouldn't bother removing it. I'd just plug up the lines, unplug the connector that goes to motor and jump it with a connector to get rid of the FI light and then call it a day. Then if you have to pass any type of inspection here, you can just put it back together until you pass it.

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Just disable it in woolich till you need a plug change and do block offs this will save work and make subsequent plug changes easier.

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Just disable it in woolich till you need a plug change and do block offs this will save work and make subsequent plug changes easier.
That doesn't disable the system from working, it disables the FI light associated with the valve removal. The system will still function if done this way.
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That doesn't disable the system from working, it disables the FI light associated with the valve removal. The system will still function if done this way.
YES, I believe Jeff is correct here.
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Since you already have the plates you might as well install them.... I don't know about the gen 4, but on my gen 3 it was only 4 allen head bolts for the plates and the rest pulls off, super easy. Now for the inspection stuff and moving back to the us, I don't know. What I will say is my friend just moved his Euro type R civic he bought in Germany while being stationed there back to the US and they didn't do shit for emission inspections. (It was heavily chopped up) Just searched it for bombs and what not, typical customs stuff.

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I just got a hose, and 3 small clamps and a plug. connected the two plates with the hose and capped off the line from the air box. Bought the jumper from Archer so no f1 code and called it a day. Costed maybe $25 for everything including the jumper. But like someone said if you have the block off plates i would just use those.... I kind of miss the popping haha
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