hey cd what in the hell are you talking about, no one had a slip on. the comparison was done using 2 gix 1ks that were stock then putting a full system with map on the 1 and leaving the other stock. then racing them back to back before and after the install. what part of that dont you get? I had about 10-12 hp advantage on him. wake the hell up :shock: so my bike had the full system micron and hid did not. we ran both bikes stock that day, and were dead even all 5 times. then i put the fullsystem on my bike later that day and we raced again with his still stock, thats where i got the bike lenghts from bud! You nee to read better, but ya i know nothing I guess since I only been riding seriously for 29 years. then later he bought a full micron system also and we were back to almost even again. Not hard to figure out is it?