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Correction: Shouldn't...
But I guess we're past that now considering the Gen6 section has made its way to the forum
Bah, that can be reversed.

Like others have mentioned, close to the same bike since 2011. Which begs the question, what updates actually define a new "Gen"? Is it just the model letter that Kawi assigns, because if so, we're past 6

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Bah, that can be reversed.

Like others have mentioned, close to the same bike since 2011. Which begs the question, what updates actually define a new "Gen"? Is it just the model letter that Kawi assigns, because if so, we're past 6
I think 2016 is not "close to the same bike since 2011".
An average biker not familiar with ZX10R may say this unfairly.

>>Which begs the question, what updates actually define a new "Gen"?
Major technical and/or visual changes/updates happening at once together with consumer perception define new "gen".

Looking at car industry with "model change" (Gen) the appearance clearly changes and often (but not always) new platform is used, major change from production point of view.
Term "facelift" where platform and production line stays the same, but body and interior receive makeup, common practice with German cars for few remaining production years.
Car new engines and engine updates don't come strictly with new models or facelifts.

Comparing ZX10R 2011+ history with car model definition I would say:
Gen5 is definetly a new model or "gen", although to untrained eye the bodywork may appear relatively similar, but the frame, swingarm, engine did change significantly by bike standards.
But if frame and swingarm (stronger in Gen5) would have stayed the same, then I would call it a "facelift", because that would not made much change from engineering and sportbike bike handling point of view, just appearance and engine change.

ZX10RR, SE and updated 2019 are far from being new "gen" or "model". I would call them 5.01 5.02 5.03 etc. They just received new components, nothing more. Of course it is positive that Kawasaki does these updates.

Gen4 race: high spec.
Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa 2013: stock.
Kawasaki KX450F 2016: love it.
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ZX10RR, SE and updated 2019 are far from being new "gen" or "model". I would call them 5.01 5.02 5.03 etc. They just received new components, nothing more. Of course it is positive that Kawasaki does these updates.

agreed... gen 4 and gen 5 look far enough apart that it makes sense they are diff gens

id say 2019 ranks at gen 5.5 due to the new cylinder head, but everything else is so similar that it doesnt deserve a gen6 moniker
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Guess I should have worded this differently. "Who" determines whether changes made are enough to consider a model year a new gen?
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Kawasaki India's own website lists the ZX10R currently at 1.28 million rupees which is $17.8k usd... and theyre not sold in china last i checked... those countries are total shitholes, you couldnt get me to live in either one if they were giving way FREE zx10rs upon entry lol

$21k is still a pretty significant jump from $15k... thats almost a 50% increase from what we are used to paying when i was back home, so it was one of the few downsides of moving here... .if zx10r's in the US suddenly went up to $21k how many US buyers would still buy them?
Ah you're right. Kawasaki just started assembling locally in India to avoid the tax and it looks like they sliced quite a good chunk off the price.
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Ah you're right. Kawasaki just started assembling locally in India to avoid the tax and it looks like they sliced quite a good chunk off the price.
yeah they had to do the same thing here... the can manufacture/import the parts and then assemble it here for a tax break, providing local jobs and investment in the factories etc.... its actually pretty smart policy on behalf of the governments.... but the tax is still really high and makes the bikes 40-50% more expensive for us here... luxury and sports cars are 2-3x the US price cause they dont assemble here its full import.
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Did the 2017-2018 ZX10RR come with 500 units a year worldwide just like the new one? Also I noticed the new RR comes with a unique serial number on the handle bar, does the ‘17 & ‘18 RR have it as well?
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Did the 2017-2018 ZX10RR come with 500 units a year worldwide just like the new one? Also I noticed the new RR comes with a unique serial number on the handle bar, does the Ď17 & Ď18 RR have it as well?
from what i undertand the 17 RR was 500 units and distributed to each country at a fixed amount, so they probably proportioned them based upon base model sales and how many they expected to sell in each place... i know thailand got 99 units

18 was supposedly 500 total units as well, so i assume 19 will be the same

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Did the 2017-2018 ZX10RR come with 500 units a year worldwide just like the new one? Also I noticed the new RR comes with a unique serial number on the handle bar, does the ‘17 & ‘18 RR have it as well?
from what i undertand the 17 RR was 500 units and distributed to each country at a fixed amount, so they probably proportioned them based upon base model sales and how many they expected to sell in each place... i know thailand got 99 units

18 was supposedly 500 total units as well, so i assume 19 will be the same

I see. I sold my ‘12 10R and been eyeing the RR for a while now. Might pull a trigger soon.
It’s nice that Thailand has 99 of them cuz I know Vietnam has like 5 haha. I’m Vietnamese but came to the US at young age and seeing people in Asia countries riding liter bikes, you guys have my respect. The traffic and the streets in Asia are too crazy for me. I would love to ride liter bike around Asia one day in the future but not sure if my skill is ready for it yet haha.
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