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post #81 of 131 Old 01-18-2019, 12:31 PM Thread Starter
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That aluminum foil seems like it'd do the trick as that stuff always seems way too damn sticky whenever I've used it. When I heard wrap I was thinking vinyl for some reason and maybe it's just me but that shit always seems to peel up for me and when you're doing 150+ I don't want any peeling in my airbox

Yea that MWR is cool but between that and the other MWR part you need, it seems like a lot of money. I do have a MWR WSBK filter thats been sitting in my garage all last year but just haven't had the time to try and get a tune dialed in for it as I'm afraid to do harm to my motor as they told me I needed to add more fueling to 2 cylinders over the stock tune.

Wonder if these airbox mods will change airflow enough to change the tune per cylinder as well?
You have MWR WSBK in the garage just sitting? Come ooon It requires re-tune though. I checked with EJR just out of curiosity. I will get a Draggy myself and will do comparison soon. So it may lean the tune a bit in high speeds and adding fuel back will result in power. I think this mod is best for roll on racing which I do more. I will check AFR when I get to drive the bike since it is damn cold
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a normal filter vs the WSBK filter is 3-4% more fuel in the hi rpms... but nothing to worry if your 13.0 already...
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a normal filter vs the WSBK filter is 3-4% more fuel in the hi rpms... but nothing to worry if your 13.0 already...
The provided FTECU auto-tune table recommended 13 in the higher RPMs but I thought that was a little rich. I was going to highlight the whole table and +3% it... what do you think?
This table isn't set in stone... was just hypothetically messing around before I apply it (don't even have the actual unit yet).
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The provided FTECU auto-tune table recommended 13 in the higher RPMs but I thought that was a little rich. I was going to highlight the whole table and +3% it... what do you think?
This table isn't set in stone... was just hypothetically messing around before I apply it (don't even have the actual unit yet).
I think you should get a tune. Iíve never seen a tuned fuel map look that clean. Most bikes have weird lean/rich areas randomly through the tables.

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I wouldn't run 13.36 for roll on racing. I wouldn't do 13.36 on a road course either. Heck I wouldn't do it period unless it proved quicker for 1/4 mile. I mean it is not crazy afr lean, but why dump the heat in the cylinder through 4,5,6 in the high rpms. As the speeds go up time in the higher gear increases. Heat in the cylinder increases for what probably amounts to no appreciable gain between 12.8 to 13.0.

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This is how it came up. Far from perfect but I am ok with that. It will do the job.
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The provided FTECU auto-tune table recommended 13 in the higher RPMs but I thought that was a little rich. I was going to highlight the whole table and +3% it... what do you think?
This table isn't set in stone... was just hypothetically messing around before I apply it (don't even have the actual unit yet).
You need some sort of measuring unit, like dyno or draggy or vbox to see what the bike likes. There is no unified AFR. Tuners and autotune products work for 13.0 by default because this is somewhat considered as best safe power. When I bought my Bazzaz Autotune it came pre set to 13.0 all accross the board. Later when I flashed with Woolich autotune my tuner set 13.4 low and mid and 13.0 high. And you will not be able to tell a difference between 13.0 and 12.5 since it is small difference but a measuring equipment will show which is better.
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I think you should get a tune. Iíve never seen a tuned fuel map look that clean. Most bikes have weird lean/rich areas randomly through the tables.
I'll have to pull up my old dyno sheets, the bikes changed a bit since then but it should provide a good baseline.

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This is how it came up. Far from perfect but I am ok with that. It will do the job.
That looks CLEAN. Way better looking than anticipated. Good posting guy

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