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post #41 of 54 Old 01-24-2018, 08:38 AM
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Brake pad threads... the new Oil Threads for 2018.

...seriously though, LDH knows his stuff. Look at the time and experience he has invested into pad knowledge. I'm a borderline lunatic when it comes to trying/testing different brands and configurations on different bikes, and I have maybe 1/10th of the diversity he's amassed on the subject. Madness. FFS, he's taken the time to make a dedicated web page about it... not the hallmark of your typical/casual Forum Expert.

...and in my humble 1/10th, I can't find fault in anything he's saying. ;) There is a great saying I picked up from a suspension company decades ago: "The best you've ridden is the best you know". Always good to keep that in mind.
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I’ve heard good things about the ebc gpfax and their other similar pad (forget what it’s called). If you’re street riding without a lot of heavy braking keep using a street pad. Track pads rack some heat to get working properly and would be a bit unpredictable. If you’re a canyon hero maybe a track pad? I dunno.

Fluid, fresh dot 4 or 5.1 is good. Flush every spring and you’ll be happy.
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Funny enough EBC asked if I would test their newest compound freshly made. Have sets going in both the Kyle Racing R6 project bike and my ZedX-10
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Funny enough EBC asked if I would test their newest compound freshly made. Have sets going in both the Kyle Racing R6 project bike and my ZedX-10
Interesting to hear a comparison to Vesrah SRJL-XX pads (I assume you have experience with these). I will be replacing mine soon and love my Vesrah's but would love to hear what you think.

Is the EBC a progressive pad?

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have used them not the GP, the other one, and they work very very nice.... I use brembo and vesrah, just a little dusty... and they wear out faster than the brembos.
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have used them not the GP, the other one, and they work very very nice.... I use brembo and vesrah, just a little dusty... and they wear out faster than the brembos.
Are they a progressive pad? I like the Vesrah XX pad because of the fact they are more progressive which is a good thing for me as I am learning the art of trail braking at track. The hard initial bite is something I want to stay away from for now. At track the corners are in the same spot every time and I don't need a panic button brake pad but a good progressive pad that gets stronger through lever pull..

Not opposed to trying something else that is similar in feel though..
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Don't care about pad life so not what I'm asking...
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Are they a progressive pad? I like the Vesrah XX pad because of the fact they are more progressive which is a good thing for me as I am learning the art of trail braking at track. The hard initial bite is something I want to stay away from for now. At track the corners are in the same spot every time and I don't need a panic button brake pad but a good progressive pad that gets stronger through lever pull..

Not opposed to trying something else that is similar in feel though..



The initial bite has zero to do with trailbraking technique where you are releasing the brakes gradually as you approach the apex. There is no reason to be applying the brakes initially at any point mid-turn.
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The initial bite has zero to do with trailbraking technique where you are releasing the brakes gradually as you approach the apex. There is no reason to be applying the brakes initially at any point mid-turn.
It does when the pad is very grabby and hard to modulate and release towards the apex. I dont like the feel of strong initial bite but a slower progressive pad is easier for me to "feel" the pad release than a pad that grabs super hard.

No where am I mentioning I apply the brakes mid corner.. Everybody likes certain things and I like pads that have less initial bite and are progressive. A pad that stops the bike immediately makes it harder for me to trail brake. I understand that I am not grabbing brakes mid corner but looking for a pad that has a better feel into the corner..
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there are 2 flavors, the one that LDH has has more initial bite....

his comment is accurate, you don't start trail braking middle of the corner, but I feel you, I also dont like hard initial bite... for other reasons.
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