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post #1 of 35 Old 05-17-2012, 12:31 AM Thread Starter
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Tire wear question, Pros needed.

Ok so I have 2 bikes to compare. I will break it down. The ZX10R is in question.

08 ZX10R

Ohlins R&T forks
Ohlins TTX shock
Stock geometry I believe

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Pirrelli Supercorsa sps.

Suspension is sprung for my weight but not setup. Just how it came setup for me. Stiff rear shock fairly soft forks. Bike feels great holds a line and is very neutral.

05 ZX6R

fork bodies are stock with ohlins piston kit, revalve, sprung for my weight, etc...
Shock is stock as it was good for me.

The suspension is setup for me with proper sag. Stock geometry.

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Michelin power pures.

My question is in regards to the supercorsa wear (chicken strips). The size difference is massive(front and rear) compared to my 6R. is this because of the suspension difference or do the supercorsas deform completely different. The 10R currently feels really good in the corners with tons of feedback and feels super planted. The 6R at its current state near the limit show feels like it wants to fall over into the corner.

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6r rear is a 180?

10r rear is 190?

Same size fronts?

is so theres our answer if you get to the edge of the front the rear will be past it's grip range

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Fronts are the same size 6R is a 180/55 rear, 10R is a 190/55 rear

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so the rear tire of the 10R will deform to properly to match the front tire?

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Nothing to do with tyre sizes...
Can still run a 190 rear to the edge with matching front.
Its the profile of the 2 different brand tyres...Michelins are a fatter profile tyre than the Pirrelli even though the numbers are the same.

Pirelli's have a very steep shoulder compared the the Michelins.

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I'm not comparing the 2 brands just front and rear comparisons for wear. I just seems like the 6R tires are work better together to compared to the 10R. But that's based on looks not feel. The 10R feels 10x better.

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Your comparing chicken strips and the reason is the tyre profiles...and the Pirellis SC2 grip much better than the Michelins hence the better feel.
I can still read 2CT on the Michelins so u got heaps before u push there limit...

As a test put the Pirelli 190 rear on the 6R and leave Michelin front i bet you will end up with zero chicken strips on the front of the Michelin.

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Your comparing chicken strips and the reason is the tyre profiles...and the Pirellis SC2 grip much better than the Michelins hence the better feel.
I can still read 2CT on the Michelins so u got heaps before u push there limit...

As a test put the Pirelli 190 rear on the 6R and leave Michelin front i bet you will end up with zero chicken strips on the front of the Michelin.
there supercorsa sp not sc2.

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The Pirellis are a different profile, very 'rounded', that's all. Also, the rears deform a lot more and will grip even when you appear run out of 'edge' ... whereas the front won't, so they need to be different.
Remember how I said in another thread that you should be careful of not having too low a pressure in the front? This is the reason.
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there supercorsa sp not sc2.
Same diff...

Same as the above post...

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