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Nail in my new q3...

I picked up a nail in my new q3 rear with less than 300 miles on it. Do you guys reccomend plugging or patching? If I plug it can I still use it for a track day?
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Neither. You should replace it especially for a trackday. If the hole is in the center of the tire you can plug it and get away with running it for awhile on the street, but the track is a different animal. Get a new tire for the track and get one plugged for switching it back later.

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I was afraid you were going to say that. I really can't afford another tire after just buying these and replacing the stator. I'm really considering selling this thing it just costs way to much to operate.
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What's the difference in 140 on the street or 140 on the track though? I ride just about as hard on the street. So if its not safe for the track I might as well toss it.

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What's the difference in 140 on the street or 140 on the track though? I ride just about as hard on the street. So if its not safe for the track I might as well toss it.
There isn't much difference in the total speeds. But on the street, you really shouldn't be dragging your knee or doing 140mph in the corners. You can and will do that on the track. On the track (usually) you're hanging it out a bit more than you would on the street. Or should be. If you were to plug it and run it on the street, you should dial it back a bit more than you normally would. If that tire fails at 140 on the street, you're more likely to hit a guardrail, utility pole, curbing, an oncoming car, etc. But on the track it's more likely to fail given the heat load in the tire and the stresses on it from constant track sessions. On the street, you're doing much slower speeds for most of the time with an occasional blast up higher.

Nails suck. And it hurts when you get one in a new tire. Been there, done that. But a new tire is cheaper than plastics and medical bills if it fails due to a repair. If money is that tight, then get this one repaired and see if you can find a used take-off from a local racer that you can use at the track. When you're done, you can put the plugged tire back on the bike and run it for awhile at slower pace.

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I got a nail a few weeks back. Freaked out about it but have been riding on a plug since then and things have been "ok". Ive had it up to 140 (oh yea this is on the 636 too) and I trust it to an extent but plan on replacing it for the new season next year. Just want this plug to get me through October before she sits all winter and I need new tires anyway luckily. I plugged mine, waited 12 hours or so while monitoring psi, rode it, brought home and monitored psi another 24 hours just to make sure its stable. Damned if I trust it 100 though.
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Plug should only be used in emergency to get home.

At the very least should be patched from the inside.

I would replace the tire.

I would not use plugged/patched tire on the track or
on the street. But I hear ya, it's expensive and tires
end up costing a lot of money.

Normally running much lower tire pressures on
the track causing a lot more flex and heat.
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I'd love to replace it, and I know I should replace it, but I just can't afford it. My local shop is going to install something that is a patch and a plug I guess. It goes in from the inside. Seems like it should be ok. The nail is so tiny, almost like a Brad nail. I really think I'm going to do this track day and sell the thing in the spring. Rode 3000 miles this year and I'm in over $1200 in repairs and maintenance.
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You guys are pretty ballsy riding that fast on a "plugged" tire, and yo each his own because im not one to preach to ppl. A few years ago i was riding about 50mph on a plugged Q2, lets just say that thing gets squishy in a hurry when that plug slings out.
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I had the same issue earlier this year. Had to suck that shit up and buy a new tire. Ended up selling the one with the nail in it to some squids for $30 bucks. Lol that was funny as hell and another story of it's own haha. But yeah I personally didn't feel comfortable with the patch or plug on my bike that I sometimes push the limits on.
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