New R1 video. - Kawasaki ZX-10R.net

CDRacingZX6R · 11-10-2003, 01:48 AM

Thought some people might like to see this while it lasts.

mms://digibox02.streamingcity.com/yamaha/videoR1/R1_adsl.wmv

zxsrr · 11-10-2003, 03:38 AM

that video doesn't do much to help the bike ,the rider is all over the damn place ! pick a line for gods sake .
800 shots of the front end ,,600 shots of the gauge ,,well produced ?,,yeah right.
I'm sure the bike is a lot to handle but fake it if you have to,, it looked more like the bike was unstable the whole time,compare it to the zx10r ad ,,not even close

Ninja · 11-10-2003, 04:20 AM

The windsheild will keep the bugs off your belt buckle if your sitting up. Why have one at all, it offers no protection to the rider.. Must be a styling exercise........

**Andy** · 11-10-2003, 09:15 AM

But she is pretty.

zxsrr · 11-10-2003, 10:41 AM

it's a sport bike not a cruiser ,you want wind protection ,lay over the tank like it was built for ,or buy a goldwing .

It' s not an everything to everybody bike ,it's a race bike ,that's all

CDRacingZX6R · 11-10-2003, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by zxsrr

that video doesn't do much to help the bike ,the rider is all over the damn place ! pick a line for gods sake .
800 shots of the front end ,,600 shots of the gauge ,,well produced ?,,yeah right.
I'm sure the bike is a lot to handle but fake it if you have to,, it looked more like the bike was unstable the whole time,compare it to the zx10r ad ,,not even close

Uh, I think you got to much out of the video. It looked as good as any of the Kawasaki video's ive seen. This one actually looked like someone was pushing it to the limits, and not just putting around. Hell I could have rode the 10R as good as the goobers in the Kawasaki video. I find your statement almost as good as the "R1 is only for people who don't know how to make there own exhaust system comment."

I track run twice a month. Have been doing it for over a year and I wish I could handle a 1k like the guy in the video.. But I guess your the expert...
:roll:

zxsrr · 11-10-2003, 03:29 PM

not an expert,just a consumer ,so that puts me in charge of my wallet and what comes out of it also my opinions of what manufactures try to convince me of , it ,My comment about the r1 exhaust still stands .Dual pipes for an inline 4 ? always a bad idea ,show me another bike that started as a dual(not a twin engine ) and was found to suck and ran better with a single ,my point was the exhaust they have on that bike is a straight gimmick .

i figure if your gonna sell it to me ,,then make me believe it's the best ,that vid looked like it was too much to handle for a trained professional.Doesn't instil much confidence in the product is all i was going for

kawiman88 · 11-10-2003, 04:14 PM

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the rider is all over the damn place

I agree with you, he was making adjustments mid-corner,
thats a no-go :? :(

CDRacingZX6R · 11-10-2003, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by zxsrr

not an expert,just a consumer ,so that puts me in charge of my wallet and what comes out of it also my opinions of what manufactures try to convince me of , it ,My comment about the r1 exhaust still stands .Dual pipes for an inline 4 ? always a bad idea ,show me another bike that started as a dual(not a twin engine ) and was found to suck and ran better with a single ,my point was the exhaust they have on that bike is a straight gimmick .

i figure if your gonna sell it to me ,,then make me believe it's the best ,that vid looked like it was too much to handle for a trained professional.Doesn't instil much confidence in the product is all i was going for

First of all it's not a straight dual by a traditional sense. It's a 4 into 1 into 2. It isn't a 2 all the way through which probably would be stupid, it's still a typical 4 straight out the engine. And because the design is first of it's kind, they know that in order to keep an accurate amount of back pressure they have to do the 4 into 1 (where the butterfly valve exists) in order to split back into 2 and not have a horse power loss and top end loss.

My comment wasn't that you are right or wrong about the good or bad aspects of the new exhaust, my point was you made a foolish statement before that anyone can make a titanium exhaust system, and that Yamaha fan's are stupid because thats the reason they are going to buy the bike. Im more impressed with the frame and engine work than the exhaust, personally.

Technology changes, so what is the point in showing you a different bike that does it. Every day motorcycles become more advanced. If the 10R is truly as light as it is rumored to be, that is amazing and first of its kind. But by your rational, the Kawasaki shouldn’t be so light because the ones before it are much heavier and that is going against the grain.

There is NO proof that this exhaust system will cause a performance loss. In fact no one is claiming in any magazine to have any fears that it might be. This all comes down to Innovative VS traditional and some people aren't ready for change.

As for the video, I saw no more amazing line runs in the Kawasaki video than I did the R1 video? So why aren't we talking about the other video? In almost every turn the bike is in the middle of the track, obvously not racing to stay on any particular line. Rather that was done purposely by either of the two videos I don't know. I didnt make em, but BOTH were not wizzing around the track in an impressive fashion.

Some people are going to peg me as a Yamaha Biased where the only 3 bikes I’ve ever owned in my life have been Kawasaki. And most likely will be Kawasaki again next year. But I’m realistic and not brand loyalist. I can point out good ideas and progressive changes in the name of good from any maker. And so far these bikes to me are running pretty close together and I have only the data the makers have to go on. And since Kawasaki still hasn’t put out data (Even though I can purchase one) all I know is what Yamaha claims the new R1 will be. And it sounds good.

zxsrr · 11-10-2003, 10:06 PM

if you have never seen a 4 into 1 into 2 you haven't seen a lot of custom exhausts ,that's been done a hundred times with dyno improvements over stock 4 -1-1 .The idea is old and tired by custom standards .4-1-1 would have made more sense ,less weight ,less uglyness,and the new yamaha buyer wouldn't be pigeonholed into buying from prob two manufactures that are even gonna bother re-tooling to build pipes for this bike .I don't mind the bike at all ,it's just seems like a excercise in wild design for no specific purpose .
The yamaha m1 is wild the aprillia cube is wild ,the petronas bike is wild ,and all three are not so great on a track .Form and function can be joined with style .I just don't think yamaha pulled it off .

i appreciate the debate i learned a bunch of stuff and i bow out humbly