If I wanted America to fail...!!!!!!!!!!!

[GSP]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=CZ-4gnNz0vc

[GoFaster]

Good find. Shared on Facebook. (Ominous ...)

[hellsrazor]

Damn skippy..

VIVA LA REVOLUTION

Rep sent my brother

[BigCat10R]

very ominous...reminds me of V for Vendetta

[Rifleman]

Reading you 5 x 5.

One of the things that no one seems to understand (and when I say no one, I mean no one in the media that will point out the stupidity) is that energy is an absolut necessity in the manufacturing process... but that more expensive energy does NOTHING to improve the product.

High energy cost do not make the product last longer, does not make it stronger, better, more efficient...

it only does one thing... it makes the product cost more... Same product, higher price...

and if that is the case... then the money you have, the pay check you earn... the labor you do... becomes worth... less (note i don't mean with out worth, just it's worth is less).

there is only one group that benefites from money being worth less... that is those who have debt. If I borrowed a 350 dollars a few years ago that would buy an ounce of gold, but I pay it back with dollars that take $1500 to buy that same ounce of gold... I'm ahead of the game. I have purchased something of value on time, and paid it back with something of less value.

now let me ask... who currently holds the most debt?

who has the most to gain by devaluing the currency...

I'll give you a hint, their current debt is $15,677,856,479,259.56 (yes 15 and a half trillion dollars)

[hellsrazor]

Originally Posted by Rifleman

Reading you 5 x 5.

One of the things that no one seems to understand (and when I say no one, I mean no one in the media that will point out the stupidity) is that energy is an absolut necessity in the manufacturing process... but that more expensive energy does NOTHING to improve the product.

High energy cost do not make the product last longer, does not make it stronger, better, more efficient...

it only does one thing... it makes the product cost more... Same product, higher price...

and if that is the case... then the money you have, the pay check you earn... the labor you do... becomes worth... less (note i don't mean with out worth, just it's worth is less).

there is only one group that benefites from money being worth less... that is those who have debt. If I borrowed a 350 dollars a few years ago that would buy an ounce of gold, but I pay it back with dollars that take $1500 to buy that same ounce of gold... I'm ahead of the game. I have purchased something of value on time, and paid it back with something of less value.

now let me ask... who currently holds the most debt?

who has the most to gain by devaluing the currency...

I'll give you a hint, their current debt is $15,677,856,479,259.56 (yes 15 and a half trillion dollars)

and growing by the minute brother.

[El Zilcho]

Meh. It's a dramatic drivel. Half true, half false.

[lowkey420]

The video is decidedly one sided when dealing with the complex issue of national energy policy. I believe in using both renewable and fossil fuels because it is necessary to do both. We cannot switch cold turkey to renewables but, at the same time we cannot keep out current rates of fossil fuel consumption. I forsee a future of mixed energy sources with the majority of transportation vehicles running on electricity while our "toys" run on gasoline based fuels. I have no problem driving an electric vehicle to work, around town, and on other daily errands. On the weekends I jump on my gasoline powered motorcycle and head to the tracks. It is the best of both worlds and I hardly see a down side to the compromise.

[El Zilcho]

Originally Posted by lowkey420

The video is decidedly one sided when dealing with the complex issue of national energy policy. I believe in using both renewable and fossil fuels because it is necessary to do both. We cannot switch cold turkey to renewables but, at the same time we cannot keep out current rates of fossil fuel consumption. I forsee a future of mixed energy sources with the majority of transportation vehicles running on electricity while our "toys" run on gasoline based fuels. I have no problem driving an electric vehicle to work, around town, and on other daily errands. On the weekends I jump on my gasoline powered motorcycle and head to the tracks. It is the best of both worlds and I hardly see a down side to the compromise.

That makes sense, but it'a not a propaganda material. It is nowhere near as dramatic as "if I wanted America to fail". As long as emotions dominate over reason and factual accuracy, nothing will change for the better.

The truth is that almost everything on a national scale is immensely complicated. There is no simple solution to most of the problems, and the best acceptable solutions will have their downsides. Take the free-market argument for example: on a smaller scale it will provide means for the economy to grow and the prosperity to spread, but it is inherently unstable and it will eventually lead to monopolies. Nothing is simple and clear cut, and just about anything can be taken out of its context, put in a positive or negative light and presented as the ultimate solution or the ultimate evil.

[hellsrazor]

Look at brazil how they switched to a corn based fuel, renewable, green, and cheap.

But here, the oil rich barons do their best to keep new technology squashed so it doesn't cut their fat cat profits.

Just look into how in the past, if anyone tried coming up with a hydrogen based technology, they would buy them up and shit can the info.

We need to re structure America, our so called leaders and laws.