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05-27-2017 12:13 AM
JohnnyB
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Originally Posted by obijack View Post
I have a stock gearing 2016 ZX10R with a cat delete exhaust tuned by Nels. And my bike has very poor low end grunt. I don't ride my zx10 on the street anymore because it is so boring. After doing a bunch of track days on it, I just hate getting on it and riding in traffic with everyone else. 1st gear goes over 100 mph, with stock gearing. I, however, am in LOVE with my 2016 Suzuki GSX-S 1000 naked for the street. The gearing is perfect makes lots of power down low in the revs. And maxes out at 140whp, stock. It is a great bike for the street.
Different strokes I guess :)
My normal ride days are between 5 to 8 hrs. I sold my 2010 gen3 zx10r because I thought a 2016 Suzuki Gsxs1000 would be more suited to the kind of rides I do. I liked it at first but it began to bore me shitless after a few weeks and I really hated feeling like a windsock at higher speeds with the upright riding position, I bought the "F" version of the GSXS because the naked felt unstable to me at speed when I tested it (so did the Ducati Monster 1100 I owned, I don't like nakeds really). I tried a few things to make the bike more "involving"...lower bars etc....nope, just didn't do it for me. I don't go riding to feel like I'm sitting in a lounge chair, regardless of how fast the lounge chair is going, So...I sold it.
Bought a 2014 ZX10...BAM! never looked back, not once. Mine has stock bars and seat and I don't have any issues with long rides and I'm 57 so no springy youthful body here. I do keep pretty fit though and I only weigh 65kgs at 173cm so perhaps that is a factor?? It seems to me that modern sport bikes are made for small sprats like myself whereas modern dirt bikes.......are NOT!! hahahaha.
My experience is that I don't feel the zx10 loses out powerwise anywhere compared to the GSXS1000 (there may be a slight difference on paper? I haven't looked) and clearly obliterates it past 8-9k. For mine, the ZX10 goes just as fast as you twist the throttle which makes it easy to ride in slow traffic (which I avoid wherever possible) if I have to.
05-25-2017 11:42 PM
mr kelly
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Originally Posted by Petelucherts View Post
Has anyone ever toured on a zx10r and if so what mods did you do to make it comfortable? I previously had an old 1998 cbr900rr fire blade and could ride it all day.... But the zx10r is hurting after about 45 mins!
Yah, I tour on mine. In the mid 2000's manufacturers started swaying away from the design philosophy that dictated that reasonable ergos were necessary for production bikes and the evolution was toward egros that were more and more track-focused. There's a huge difference between my 2000 and my 2008 6r's.

That said, my present 'touring' bike is an 04 10r. I've done 14 hour days on it, and I've done an unofficial Iron Butt. Every Fall involves a week long pilgrimage from Canada, back and forth and all around Northern California, and back with a bunch of my buddies. Mileage varies according to the roads, 600 miles on the interstate is a completely different story than 600 miles on back road twisties. Our days are usually 8-10 hours.

After a few minor mod's, I absolutely love this bike for touring.
The single biggest improvement was to build a custom seat that fit me. I'm 6' tall and found that my longer shins lifted my thighs off the front of the saddle and focused weight on my butt bones. I used higher density foam and built it a bit wider and taller at the front, and sculpted it to fit to my natural seated position. Waaaaay more comfortable, and allowed me to better use my core to take weight off the bars.
I also like my leathers for touring. The ones I've got vent really well, and are versatile if you plan for adding and removing layers. I find I don't fatigue or get as sore in them as I do in my textiles. I've got a heated vest and a hyper kewl vest.
For luggage, I like my Givi tanklock tankbag, and I machined a mount to attach a pelican case in place of the rear seat. Not so sexy, but at least I've got room for clean underwear and rain gear, it's waterproof and it doesn't flop around and shift like soft luggage.

A lot of it though comes down to physical and mental conditioning. Having said that, I'm 43 and am not as in-shape as I was when I was a kid, so go figure.
05-21-2017 08:35 PM
scout 17/39 is np unless very tight stuff. the z1000 is pos compared to any inline 4 super. Not just the engine, but total design. All tour bikes; all cruisers, all production naked bikes, etc., are a testimony of poor riding skills and a total failure of riders failing to study simple riding books such as Twist Wrist II. Not about racing at all. The perfection of pro racing is not buying a 'hot' bike that looks cool and makes you feel good about whatever imagined, but that the pro guys demand certain handling problems to be addressed. Thank God for the Kenny Roberts as it was that group of ancients that gave us the supers of today.

Do not look anywhere but at the superbike. Don't change the grips or dork anything major. On the other hand, do whatever you want as it's your bike.
05-21-2017 03:51 PM
ukzx10r I run -1 and +2 and its lively but not torquey.
The z1000sx looks really nice and they are selling so well in the uk id love one.
Ive heard the suzuki gsxs is a great road bike and i think it looks great in the flesh.
05-21-2017 08:52 AM
obijack
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Originally Posted by Kllongbrake View Post
Im curious what gearing you run that you have a lack of low end power, stock? -1 +2 with a rifleman insert and Nels dyno tune. I actually enjoy 250-300 mile days on this bike. Heli bars, 719 gel grips(as suggested by evilaugust), and either my custom fit seat or saddleman gel I just bought. Only thing I've been thinking about is a change to risers and dirt bike style bars. Anyone done this? Any downsides to this mod? I don't race or track day....yet.
I have a stock gearing 2016 ZX10R with a cat delete exhaust tuned by Nels. And my bike has very poor low end grunt. I don't ride my zx10 on the street anymore because it is so boring. After doing a bunch of track days on it, I just hate getting on it and riding in traffic with everyone else. 1st gear goes over 100 mph, with stock gearing. I, however, am in LOVE with my 2016 Suzuki GSX-S 1000 naked for the street. The gearing is perfect makes lots of power down low in the revs. And maxes out at 140whp, stock. It is a great bike for the street.
05-21-2017 08:40 AM
Kllongbrake
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Originally Posted by ukzx10r View Post
I couldnt think of a worse bike to ride long distance than my bike. I hate everything about it for long distance other than the seat isnt too bad for comfort.
I was thinking last week that id like to get a different bike for cruising on as the zx10 just seems to just be rareing to go all the time and the lack of low down grunt just makes cruising unpleasant.
There are sports bikes out there that beat the zx10 hands down for cruising but thats not why i brought a zx10. I brought one for spirited riding only.
Im curious what gearing you run that you have a lack of low end power, stock? -1 +2 with a rifleman insert and Nels dyno tune. I actually enjoy 250-300 mile days on this bike. Heli bars, 719 gel grips(as suggested by evilaugust), and either my custom fit seat or saddleman gel I just bought. Only thing I've been thinking about is a change to risers and dirt bike style bars. Anyone done this? Any downsides to this mod? I don't race or track day....yet.
05-21-2017 07:00 AM
Uncle Snake
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Originally Posted by Ninja Johnny View Post
Pack Jack in Alberta:
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That looks great! I've been using a Quick Stand for 17years and have had no problems but may retire it in favor of the Pack Jack.

http://www.motorcycleradar.com/quick_stand.htm
05-20-2017 08:59 PM
scout Saddle np for me on g4 and I ride a lot. I would hate a bike tour situation.
05-20-2017 03:29 PM
Barbarian Roman
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Originally Posted by ukzx10r View Post
I couldnt think of a worse bike to ride long distance than my bike. I hate everything about it for long distance other than the seat isnt too bad for comfort.
I was thinking last week that id like to get a different bike for cruising on as the zx10 just seems to just be rareing to go all the time and the lack of low down grunt just makes cruising unpleasant.
There are sports bikes out there that beat the zx10 hands down for cruising but thats not why i brought a zx10. I brought one for spirited riding only.
I find my zx10 to be comfortable to ride starting at speeds of 120 km/h or 75m/h because the wind lifts you up a bit and takes the strain of your wrists and torso. Unfortunately it is above the speed limit of almost all highways in my region and other than freeways, it is not practical nor safe to ride at those speeds especially on backcountry roads or commuting in the city. As well, under 4000rpm the bike feels somewhat lethargic. But on a spirited ride, you soon forget all of that
05-20-2017 02:52 PM
ukzx10r I couldnt think of a worse bike to ride long distance than my bike. I hate everything about it for long distance other than the seat isnt too bad for comfort.
I was thinking last week that id like to get a different bike for cruising on as the zx10 just seems to just be rareing to go all the time and the lack of low down grunt just makes cruising unpleasant.
There are sports bikes out there that beat the zx10 hands down for cruising but thats not why i brought a zx10. I brought one for spirited riding only.
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