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post #1 of 22 Old 09-05-2017, 03:51 PM Thread Starter
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Has anyone tuned a 10R for midrange power? For street use the motor doesn't appeal to me. I'd buy a new RR tomorrow if I thought I could get anything out of it. Maybe with cams or cam timing?
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post #2 of 22 Old 09-05-2017, 06:26 PM
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Full exhaust system and tune helps.

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Full exhaust and a sprocket with a tune is all you can really do. It's built with top end in mind and you'll compromise too much to get just a few extra with cams. You won't need anything else after its flashed, tuned, exhaust and sprocket anyway

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Doesn't need full exhaust. Doesn't need anything. Plenty of power available once you're dialed into the bike.
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earlier Gens you can swap down cams.....Gen 1-3 swap easily. Untill we get variable cam timing, it's one world or the other.

Unless you open the motor, deck the head and run a thin headgasket, then you can have a good compromise of mid and top power with the right cam timing.

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Doesn't need full exhaust. Doesn't need anything. Plenty of power available once you're dialed into the bike.
Its difficult to take you seriously sokmetimes...

The guy is asking how to increase the mid range because he's rode the bike and for him it needs more power and youre giving your standard reply of keep it stock. He asked what he needs to do to increase the mid range.. You have no idea what sort of rider he is and how much seat time he has and seat time doesn't increase power, it just makes him more used to a restricted down on power bike.
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Gear it -1+2 youll get all midrange you need.

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You're not going to get very good midrange out of most literbikes.

The ones that do?
Ducati 1299s (not even the 1199 since it has poor midrange)
Aprilia RSV4?
2017 Suzuki GSXR1000 (with variable valve timing)
Yamaha R1 cross plane

Others? I can't think of any.

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You're not going to get very good midrange out of most literbikes.



The ones that do?

Ducati 1299s (not even the 1199 since it has poor midrange)

Aprilia RSV4?

2017 Suzuki GSXR1000 (with variable valve timing)

Yamaha R1 cross plane



Others? I can't think of any.

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You're not going to get very good midrange out of most literbikes.

The ones that do?
Ducati 1299s (not even the 1199 since it has poor midrange)
Aprilia RSV4?
2017 Suzuki GSXR1000 (with variable valve timing)
Yamaha R1 cross plane

Others? I can't think of any.
It's funny that though...If you dyno each of the latest litre bikes, they make near enough the same power and it's gearing that alters where the meat of the power is felt.

In terms of the OP, I think the latest CBR1000RR makes power earlier in the rev range than the others so maybe for street use, it is the best.

I have heard it compared to a 750 in terms of user friendliness...It doesn't make the crazy top end like a ZX10R and S1000RR but you go faster because you feel more confident in it's power delivery.

Some have said it's boring which is the cliche to describe Hondas, but how can 180ish horsepower be boring. Idiots!
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