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post #11 of 16 Old 01-12-2004, 03:38 PM
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well I would be a little careful, a german tuner has dyno tested pre production models of both the R1 and the ZX10R and there the ZX10R had 163PS and the R1 166PS, both at the clutch

http://www.lkmpower.de/tuning%20kits/zx10r_neu.htm

http://www.lkmpower.de/tuning%20kits/r1_04.htm,

I think it is best we all wait until the final versions are tested. And wait until there is couple of tests available only then we can start drawing conclusions
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well I would be a little careful, a german tuner has dyno tested pre production models of both the R1 and the ZX10R and there the ZX10R had 163PS and the R1 166PS, both at the clutch

http://www.lkmpower.de/tuning%20kits/zx10r_neu.htm

http://www.lkmpower.de/tuning%20kits/r1_04.htm,

I think it is best we all wait until the final versions are tested. And wait until there is couple of tests available only then we can start drawing conclusions
Two of the bikes at the tire test for Yamaha wern't as stock as the third. Disalvo had a full ti system, he also was the one passing Matt on the outside. Also the main reason the Yamaha was doing better than the suzuki was it could turn and out bank better than GSXR1000.

You have to keep in talent to. Not as an excause for any bike, but remember the Kawasaki team has some younger less experianced racers, where Yamaha had a full fledged backing with riders like Hacking, etc.

Hayes is the shit, I know I know. But his superbike had no aftermaket "Super" parts, so what did you expect him to do?
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well I would be a little careful, a german tuner has dyno tested pre production models of both the R1 and the ZX10R and there the ZX10R had 163PS and the R1 166PS, both at the clutch

http://www.lkmpower.de/tuning%20kits/zx10r_neu.htm

http://www.lkmpower.de/tuning%20kits/r1_04.htm,

I think it is best we all wait until the final versions are tested. And wait until there is couple of tests available only then we can start drawing conclusions
Two of the bikes at the tire test for Yamaha wern't as stock as the third. Disalvo had a full ti system, he also was the one passing Matt on the outside. Also the main reason the Yamaha was doing better than the suzuki was it could turn and out bank better than GSXR1000.

You have to keep in talent to. Not as an excause for any bike, but remember the Kawasaki team has some younger less experianced racers, where Yamaha had a full fledged backing with riders like Hacking, etc.

Hayes is the shit, I know I know. But his superbike had no aftermaket "Super" parts, so what did you expect him to do?
Throw out a tow rope.

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well I would be a little careful, a german tuner has dyno tested pre production models of both the R1 and the ZX10R and there the ZX10R had 163PS and the R1 166PS, both at the clutch

http://www.lkmpower.de/tuning%20kits/zx10r_neu.htm

http://www.lkmpower.de/tuning%20kits/r1_04.htm,

I think it is best we all wait until the final versions are tested. And wait until there is couple of tests available only then we can start drawing conclusions
Two of the bikes at the tire test for Yamaha wern't as stock as the third. Disalvo had a full ti system, he also was the one passing Matt on the outside. Also the main reason the Yamaha was doing better than the suzuki was it could turn and out bank better than GSXR1000.

You have to keep in talent to. Not as an excause for any bike, but remember the Kawasaki team has some younger less experianced racers, where Yamaha had a full fledged backing with riders like Hacking, etc.

Hayes is the shit, I know I know. But his superbike had no aftermaket "Super" parts, so what did you expect him to do?
Throw out a tow rope.

BD
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Bkin, thanks for the link. looks like the 10r put out 153 ps at the rear wheel and the R1 put out 155 ps. i think a ps is a little bit less than a hp, so both seem to be in the low 150hp area at the rear wheel. this would be consistent with the tiforce dyno of the R1. i am not aware of any other dynos for the 10r. i am a little surprised that kawi and yamaha would aim for the current gixxer hp number (rather than something in excess of the current gixxer hp). makes me think that the manufacturers have agreed to a cap on hp. maybe the production models will have more hp. i also don't understand how the R1 could own the 10r at the dunlop test when the stock hp seems to be the same for both bikes. time will tell, but i kind of enjoy trying to figure it out in advance. anyone know the date of the R1 press introduction in Feb?
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I believe that both manufactures have left it up to the individual to extract that free extra horsepower. With a freeer flowing intake and a full exhaust system and a power commander I believe that each bike will put out close to 175 hp at the rear wheel. After all these bikes come strangled from the manufacture to meet the epa restrictions. Imagine what these bike will do in superbike trim will make my final decesion on the hp when they come out with full tests and when the bikes have been properly broken in. Free horsepower comes when all the pieces have been properly matched with a good break in period. :D :D :D
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