Jeez man, picky picky. I think you're so picky you cant decide what you want most out of a bike lol. Gotta be super comfy, but also a sportbike, dont wanna shift a lot, short reach, probly want some risers, etc...
Man, what ever happened to getting a new to you bike and just growing with it or getting used to the new bike? You'll get used to a new reach, id think. Or maybe not and that will be the only thing you'll focus on when riding? The reach on my first year 636 is extreme and yea the angle is rough too so itll smack your balls if not careful. Ive learned ways to not let this happen but then i tend to use a lot of my legs and feet when i ride too. Ive also had a surgery on each shoulder and the reach doesnt bother me unless i do a 300 mile day. She's rough around the edges and thats putting it lightly but i wouldnt have it any other way, the bike has taught me a lot about riding.
And as far as ABS, people can say what they want about this statement but - i try to always have An Out and try to never put myself in a situation where i cant control the braking.
Its a purely Zen moment when you can slam down gears while also modulating the front with the rear to not only stop the bike in time but do it without losing traction or upsetting the bike.
Call me a pussy but i try to never ride in the rain too which is where id think youd need it most. Rode in a toad strangler over the summer and it would have given me some nice peace of mind but luckily i didnt need it that day and there was even hail lol so..
I can understand how ABS can save yer ass, i really do get it, im not that dense but i just feel like if you're using it that much on the street maybe you are either riding too hard or need to think about your style/body position, stuff like that. Heck i cant even remember the last time i locked up the rear.
Also, i ride my 636 just fine on the street, it rocks in fact. At least for me. I think saying 600's suck for the street is a pretty generalized statement since they work well for some people. If that were the case - they suck - we'd be on a ZX300, ZZR, ZRX or Z1 forum. Yea you gotta shift but you can short shift to a gear and cruise, i do it all the time and always have plenty of pep to pass any car i come across. I guess if you dont wanna shift just rip yer clutch lever off and lose some weight. Or, Honda makes some POS that is automatic if i remember correctly. Gonna try to disagree as politely as i can on that one and leave it at that.
I didnt even wanna reply because it seems futile in this thread but i had a few min's this morning so whatever.
@ ZX10Arghh, gotta agree i hate the angular look of many bikes these days save for the KTM bikes. Thats why i love my GenII fat girl so much, not hardly a hard line on the bike, all curved lines. And yea i too love the look of Yamaha bikes.