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ZX10r Wheelie

Hey guys. I know I might get flamed for this but just looking for some advice. I have been riding for 6 years or so, mostly 600s but have been riding my zx10r for a year now. Anyways, I never gave wheelies much thought except for the occasional accidental power wheelie with hard acceleration, which I immediately bring down, safely. Anyways, here comes the part I may get flamed for, I would like to be able to do a longer wheelie, in a safe environment of course. So heres my question, I was highly considering getting a used older dirt bike, to learn balance point, clutch/brake/acceleration control on before I even really attempt on my big bike. I know the weight and stuff will be different between the zx10r and the dirt bike, the thing I hope to gain on the dirt bike is mostly brake control to save my ass if the front goes over the top, instead of freaking out and flipping. My thoughts are I can learn all this, on grass/dirt, instead of pavement, at slow speeds. I plan on falling, as I know I most likely will. I know, even with this I can still wreck on my zx10r but the thought is, this will be the safest/cheapest way to learn wheelie balance/technique and most importantly brake control if wheel goes to high. What do you all think? Am I wasting my time with a dirt bike?
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My advice.. a leather suit, a good helmet, and some life insurance..

but for real, they have wheelie classes...

I probably wouldn't be trying to LEARN how to wheelie on my 10R.. but if you really want to, it's DAM EASY.. just open that throttle up and hold on.. swap out your sprockets and get right with God.. cause you may meet him sooner than you hope to...

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Alright, I don't want to get too far into this, but are you trying to learn sit down or stand up wheelies? Also know that slow wheelies are much harder to learn than ones at speed.

Are you wanting to learn the bounce technique or clutch ups? Advantages of clutch ups are that you can do them in a variety of rpms in each gear where bouncing it up you are more limited on what rpm to do this at.


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Oh Lord....you sound serious....

Try it on the grass?!?! WTF?!?!? Really?

1st You wil get hurt. period.

2nd you will wreck your bike.

The key to longer wheelies is throttle control. Bigger sprockets help immensely.

The ZX can power wheelie in every gear..trust me on this.

My recommendation is to NOT start trying to do wheelies, but when you have a power wheelie, use the throttle to control it, bring it up higher, or last longer....

Thats all Ill say about that.....

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Oh Lord....you sound serious....

Try it on the grass?!?! WTF?!?!? Really?

1st You wil get hurt. period.

2nd you will wreck your bike.

The key to longer wheelies is throttle control. Bigger sprockets help immensely.

The ZX can power wheelie in every gear..trust me on this.

My recommendation is to NOT start trying to do wheelies, but when you have a power wheelie, use the throttle to control it, bring it up higher, or last longer....

Thats all Ill say about that.....
I think everyone miss-understood me. I would be practicing on grass, with a DIRT BIKE. Not my zx10r. I have done many small wheelies on my r6 before this zx10r. They were all power wheelies but they were well below balance point. What I meant was, I am now interested in doing slow balance point wheelies so instead of practicing on any sport bike at first, is it worth buying a cheap dirt bike to learn slow wheelies and practice brake and clutch control on, before stepping up to crotch rockets, or should I just jump right into putting a cage on my bike and stunting in the lots with my friends. They rent out this one lot every weekend.
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That dirt bike wheelie is going to be NOTHING like a 10R wheelie, so throw that out of your mind...

a 10R wheelie is about throttle control, if you're trying to do a power wheelie...

or clutch control, if you're trying to clutch is up...

clutch-ups, you can do dam near at anytime, but you better be good, cause it's coming up fast...

a power wheelie at high speed, I find in MY limited experience, is a little more tame and not so scary...

when I first started doing them, I'd notice the wheel coming off the ground a bit, so I'd try to hold it longer and longer... and get it higher and higher without killing myself..


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I understand the dirt bike and crotch rockets are nothing alike, but as far as rear break to bring them back down, they are alike. If you are used to using them on the dirt bike, id assume you would be better prepared to use the rear break when learning on a sport bike. Ive scene a lot of people crash, when they simply could have used the rear break but they panicked. This is what I was hoping to accomplish with a dirt bike. If I can get used to using the back break on a dirt bike instead of panicking when its too high, then when I start doing them on a sport bike, I would be more apt at using the rear break instead of panicking...but maybe I am wrong
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