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post #41 of 468 Old 02-17-2016, 10:33 PM
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Give me a call in the AM, usually with that many questions it is better to go over everything one by one over the phone.

I'm usually in from 9/10AM-5PM CST with a small break in there around 330PM-4PM to make my daily post office run.

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lol....I thought about that also...
I had to do a side by side of both packages to get clarity.
My eyes kept skipping items in one package.
Thats why I had the heavy edit to my post lol

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lol....I thought about that also...
I had to do a side by side of both packages to get clarity.
My eyes kept skipping items in one package.
Thats why I had the heavy edit to my post lol
LOL, it's all good man. I'm in so if you want to chit chat we can. Number is on Woolich's site or else in my signature below.

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Here is a video of the fault clearing process in action!
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Just purchased this kit from Archer....
cant wait.

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The auto-tune feature sounds interesting.
How does it interface with the ecu and its internal fuel maps?
Open or closed loop system?
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The auto-tune feature sounds interesting.

How does it interface with the ecu and its internal fuel maps?

Open or closed loop system?


It's auto tune. By definition that means closed loop. There's no such thing as an open loop auto tune.

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Did some reading on the fourm about this auto tuner.

Its a piggy back data collector that doesn't actively change trims.

Not a closed loop system.

Nice bit of kit btw.

Out of interest has anyone used Woolich with a
Innovate fuel controller/data-logger ?

LC-2 Wideband O2 Digital Air/fuel Ratio Controller

PL-1: Pocket Logger, Innovate MTS Datalogger


I'm sure the Zeitronix ZT-3 Wideband O2 Controller is fine but wondering if we have a choice for fuel controllers/ data loggers?

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Did some reading on the fourm about this auto tuner.

Its a piggy back data collector that doesn't actively change trims.

Not a closed loop system.

Nice bit of kit btw.

Out of interest has anyone used Woolich with a
Innovate fuel controller/data-logger ?

LC-2 Wideband O2 Digital Air/fuel Ratio Controller

PL-1: Pocket Logger, Innovate MTS Datalogger


I'm sure the Zeitronix ZT-3 Wideband O2 Controller is fine but wondering if we have a choice for fuel controllers/ data loggers?

So, it sounds like you're confusing a couple of different products. DynoJet offers an auto-tune kit for their Power Commander. It's similar to the Woolich kit in the fact that it auto-tunes. The Woolich kit is way more functional and way better than the DynoJet stuff. Bazzaz also has a completing product. ALL of them are piggyback units. The Power Commander and Bazzaz alter the ECU signal inbetween the ECU and the fuel injectors. The Woolich modifies the ECU directly.

ALL of them are closed loop systems. They HAVE to be. Closed-loop only means that there is a feedback sensor in the exhaust so it can sense the output from the fueling changes and know how to correct them. You CAN NOT auto-tune with an open loop system. Open loop means there's no feedback and is already how the US models come from the factory. The ECU uses prediction logic to set the fueling and that's it.

Open-loop/closed-loop has nothing to do with the way the fuel trims get applied. If you have to acknowledge them first and save the recommended values off - it's still a closed loop system. If the fuel trim changes real-time without user intervention - it's still a closed-loop system.
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Did some reading on the fourm about this auto tuner.

Its a piggy back data collector that doesn't actively change trims.

Not a closed loop system.

Nice bit of kit btw.

Out of interest has anyone used Woolich with a
Innovate fuel controller/data-logger ?

LC-2 Wideband O2 Digital Air/fuel Ratio Controller

PL-1: Pocket Logger, Innovate MTS Datalogger


I'm sure the Zeitronix ZT-3 Wideband O2 Controller is fine but wondering if we have a choice for fuel controllers/ data loggers?

These products you've shown here are nothing more than output sensors. They do no tuning. They merely data log and/or output the sensor readings so you can adjust the fueling accordingly. Whether that's done through some other controller, or you manually change the fueling values, it doesn't really matter. You still need some way to change the fueling values based on the readings from that sensor.

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post #50 of 468 Old 02-23-2016, 09:22 AM
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Sorry for the confusion.

This bit of kit (log box/log box pro) that works the magic, interfaces with Woolich software is the part I'm interested. How it communicates and if it's compatible with other data accusation system like the Innovate products listed.

Woolich's auto-tune data has to be collected, edited and flashed. I was hoping it would allow for the wide-band sensor to run closed loop with the ecu and correct for afr in real time. I guess, I might have been hoping for too much.

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