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post #1 of 53 Old 08-30-2016, 11:59 AM Thread Starter
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Steering Damper Solution

I'm started to really get tired of stock electronic steering damper and all those unpredictable tank slappers what happens pretty often.

Is there any solution available to improve electronic damper or should I return manual dampers I used and liked before Gen. 5?

What is needed to disconnect electronic damper and install manual damper without any Fi light and/or other issues?
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post #2 of 53 Old 08-30-2016, 12:22 PM
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Been discussed ad nauseam.

First, if you had a tank slapper, you'd have crashed. If you're getting headshake, you have a set up/geometry problem. Especially if it's re-occurring frequently.

You can install the Ohlins race SCU to change the characteristics of the ESD. Or you can remove the ESD and install a manual one. You'll need to retain the ESD motor to keep the caution light from coming on. There's a how-to thread on doing that.
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After I got my ECU flashed i had some issues of head shake. But I quickly realized I was holding the bars too tight. Maybe that will help you OP.
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Headshake issues are most likely caused by set up issues and/or rider input. A properly set up motorcycle will rarely experience headshakes when ridden correctly.

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I have a 2014 with the ESD and the Ohlins race SCU. I also have a 2016 that came with the same ESD that I took apart and removed the servo which I tucked under the tank, then installed a revalved (by Velocity Calibrations) manual damper on it. I like both options. Here's a video I made on how to remove the servo from the ESD:

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I just recently got the ohlins scu for my 2013 and i must say it helped a lot! the gen5 uses the same ohlins scu as the gen4...

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what are you doing to produce a 'tank slapper?' and what past bike with a manual damper.
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First, if you had a tank slapper, you'd have crashed. If you're getting headshake, you have a set up/geometry problem. Especially if it's re-occurring frequently.
Okay. I redefine; I'm getting frequent head-shakes. Often while acceleration and due to road surface inequalities. Sure, there are occasionally rider error involved but I think that's reason aids are partly made for? Yeah, being heavy on bars! I feel I just can barely touch bars while acceleration.

I'm sure stock electronic damper is not optimal for road racing (bounces, jumps, etc.) as I used before manual damper and it performed much better.
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Okay. I redefine; I'm getting frequent head-shakes. Often while acceleration and due to road surface inequalities. Sure, there are occasionally rider error involved but I think that's reason aids are partly made for? Yeah, being heavy on bars! I feel I just can barely touch bars while acceleration.

I'm sure stock electronic damper is not optimal for road racing (bounces, jumps, etc.) as I used before manual damper and it performed much better.
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what are you doing to produce a 'tank slapper?' and what past bike with a manual damper.
I'm getting frequent head-shakes, while acceleration and due to road surface inequalities. I Feel like I can't even touch bars at all.
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