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In the garbage, no. Up on a shelf somewhere collecting dust, yes.
Well, mine went onto the street/B bike since it was at least track-sprung for me (still a hella stiff street ride unless I'm moving along, but better than stock at least).

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In the garbage, no. Up on a shelf somewhere collecting dust, yes.
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It’s probably not bad to use up until a certain pace on the track but proper suspension is worth every dime. When you think “oh shit, I don’t know if I’ll make this!”, the suspension/tires shrug it off and you really see what this stuff can do. Or you end up on your face.
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So all that marketing and SHOWA branded stuff, BPF etc, gets tossed in the trash because their aftermarket counterparts are that much better......I haven't ridden on Showa before but it's a shame to see they suck and are not even remotely close to Ohlins or its direct competitors.
These people have been racing for years. Itís not like they do 3-7 track days per year. For 95% of the people who buy these bikes, the stock suspension is better than they are fast.
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These people have been racing for years. Itís not like they do 3-7 track days per year. For 95% of the people who buy these bikes, the stock suspension is better than they are fast.
Please lets not open this can of worms. Just because the feedback is coming from someone who races at Superbike level doesn't mean the average street rider can't 'enjoy' or notice some kind of difference riding on aftermarket Ohlins or K-Tech. The OEM units are definitely enough for 95% of riders out there but that is not to say that they will feel the same to the less experienced.
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you're new here, just giving you some background. calm down slick.
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Let me say that many people who ride a bike with Fully adjustable suspension ( I use that term loosely) can't adjust their own suspension to save their lives. I know this because I see them and talk to them on virtually every ride through the Malibu Mountains. Stock Showa and KYB stuff is very good generally. It can be made much better by experienced tuners ( i.e. Paul Thede, Racetech or similar). Now one could be riding an Ohlins product but this person my not be able to Tune said product to make it work the way it should or could. Tuning is key to making anything work, whether stock components or Ohlins stuff. Testing and Tuning!!!!!!! What do you say FELLAS..........make sense?
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Let me say that many people who ride a bike with Fully adjustable suspension ( I use that term loosely) can't adjust their own suspension to save their lives. I know this because I see them and talk to them on virtually every ride through the Malibu Mountains. Stock Showa and KYB stuff is very good generally. It can be made much better by experienced tuners ( i.e. Paul Thede, Racetech or similar). Now one could be riding an Ohlins product but this person my not be able to Tune said product to make it work the way it should or could. Tuning is key to making anything work, whether stock components or Ohlins stuff. Testing and Tuning!!!!!!! What do you say FELLAS..........make sense?
Um, most of the posters in this thread are racers. Pretty sure we all have our stuff professionally adjusted, extremely frequently, by people who know WTF they are doing.

The upgraded suspension made a massive difference with how the bike handled without so much as sag set up (although sprung for me and put about where Canfield figured it should be for a starting point).

The stock stuff was sprung and tuned multiple times throughout the year, and never handled anywhere near as well as this set up does.

For the average street rider, sure, get it set up and tuned and it will probably be more than adequet. I wouldn't put Ohlins on my street bike except that it's also my back up race bike, so eventually it'll be getting the upgrade as well.
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Knowing how to adjust your suspension yourself makes a big difference in how well your bike can handle. You are the person riding it so, you should be the one adjusting it. I learned that a lesson by time ago. Many of my friends have turned to Dave Moss ( west coast tuner ) for tuning help. He does good work as long as his head is in the game. Again, tuning and testing are paramount in winning races. Because after all, all tracks a bit different and certain suspension set up can make you more confident or hesitant in your riding.
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