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ukzx10r 05-28-2017 05:57 PM

Might sell my zx10r
 
Yesterday i did a track day at a track ive never ridden before.
After first session learning where the track went i started to up the pace and was pushing har as you can see in the vid below.
Bike felt good especially on corner entry where i could trail brake deep into the corner.
But as usual for me the rear grip fell off a cliff after a few hard laps and i had a slide then a near highside and then i had to back down the pace.
After each session i was knackered too.
In the afternoon i tried my dads 2016 s1000rr that id never ridden before and instantly was going well. Keeping up with quick riders on a bike i knew nothing about.
Things i noticed were where mine spins the rear the s1000 wont let it happen. Changing direction felt easier somehow and when i got back to the pits i was barely breaking a sweat and the tyre was in good order.
Its does have a slightly vague feeling to it but it has made me realise that as much as i like the zx10s there may be a better bike out there for me.
Anyway heres the vid.
https://youtu.be/1F8HuAkKGTw

jr0065 05-28-2017 06:13 PM

Did the BMW feel lot more comfortable?
I've considered the same switch since I have heard it is more comfortable than a ZX-10R but I have not ridden an S1000rr myself.

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ukzx10r 05-28-2017 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jr0065 (Post 4352186)
Did the BMW feel lot more comfortable?
I've considered the same switch since I have heard it is more comfortable than a ZX-10R but I have not ridden an S1000rr myself.

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I would say it was slightly comfier.
The seat was softer for me and i now feel like it is one of the problems with the zx10.
On the zx10 im always trying to pull myself forward on to the tank and the s1000 it holds you forwards and the narrower seat makes it simple to slip from side to side when changing direction.
On the road however being jammed onto the tank could be slightly uncomfortable for a man!

obijack 05-28-2017 07:25 PM

The new era superbikes electronic packages are sweet! They let you get away with a lot.

ukzx10r 05-28-2017 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by obijack (Post 4352202)
The new era superbikes electronic packages are sweet! They let you get away with a lot.

True. I was pinning the throttle and it was applying the power gradually itsself.
But that is part of the reason why it felt slighty disconnected and almost like you are cheating.
That said they are adjustable so you can dial in less if you want to.
Id love to do a track day on a gen5 zx10 to compare

scout 05-28-2017 11:19 PM

I watched half the vid and you all looks good to me. If the rr feels better buy it and keep the 10r What may be happening is a transitioning level up glitch. My point is that you look great to me but since you feel better on the rr then go there but keep the 10r ready because the rr may be simply another segway to the next level up. I'm simply thinking here based upon your vid. The problem that I have with track is that it's so hard to ride everyday at the track. Luv Rossi as he said the truth: 'if I don't ride everyday, I'm afraid that I'll forget how to ride.' That is the truth.

JayBoCC2 05-28-2017 11:44 PM

What tires are you running? It seems a bit odd to to me to be cooking a tire in a few hot laps unless it were a street tire.

scout 05-28-2017 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ukzx10r (Post 4352218)
True. I was pinning the throttle and it was applying the power gradually itsself.
But that is part of the reason why it felt slighty disconnected and almost like you are cheating.
That said they are adjustable so you can dial in less if you want to.
Id love to do a track day on a gen5 zx10 g atmpare

The cheat feel is outside the comfort zone. Another way of looking at it is let the bike work for you; if the bike feels like it's working against you THEN IT'S YOU. And that's the true beauty of a super.

if working against the rider then the rider must sort out the problem. Not enough weight over; too late on throttle; can't remember the turn; too tired; too fat so can't help suspension; myriad of stuff. Even top level pros can't sort this every race.

ukzx10r 05-29-2017 03:46 AM

I was on metzeler racetec 200 sc1 and it was quite a warm day.
Tyre was awsome for first few laps then it overheats and grip falls of a cliff.
I do believe half of it was the rear showa shock as that to felt good for few laps but when i pulled in the pits its damping was almost non existant.
Think the oil was over heating as on the road the shock is spot on.
The other half of the problem i believe to be that i didnt have the traction control on and im 6ft 4 tall and quite heavy.

JayBoCC2 05-29-2017 04:13 AM

May want to try a SC2 or SC3 for a real hot day.

When was the last time the shock was serviced?

I run a gen 4 with an elka rear shock and sc1(front) and sc2(rear) and the bike is extremely compliant, smooth on the throttle and light on the bars helps a lot with that. I can easily spin the rear if i get a little whiskey throttle though. I have kit ecu and TC setup enough to help a slide but not a wheelie. I have yet to run in 100+degreeF temps, though i will be this weekend at buttonwillow, but i don't expect to have any issues. I'm also 6'2 & 210lbs if that helps.

I've heard the stock shock is absolute shit, unfortunately i don't have experience with one, nor how a gen5 shock would compare.


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