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post #1 of 34 Old 04-11-2017, 05:34 PM Thread Starter
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Gen 5 tuning questions, mainly idle

Good afternoon! I'm working on tuning my gen 5 and have some questions. I've searched, but now real thread on tuning this bike.

Archer has been a godsend thus far, but I feel bad emailing with questions constantly.

Bike is almost brand new (215 miles) with Woolich logbox, slip on, ais blocked off and stock O2 disconnected.

I can't get it to idle for the life of me. I used the easy EU from map share and started auto tuning. The bike has unreal power, but idles like shit.

I've added fuel, raised idle to 1400 and tried to just auto tune with idling.

Please help! And feel free to post any tuning secrets you may have on this bike. It could help a lot of us new to the Zx10 (my CBRs were easy but slow in comparison)
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if it doesn't stall at a stop than stop over thinking this bike.
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I put one of my bikes map on map share , and use 1600RPM at Idle ,you may need more timing for different exhausts. 2016 ZX10R map ,Autotuned

working on Austin Racing exhaust right now ,fuel map is a bit different but using the same timing map.
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if it doesn't stall at a stop than stop over thinking this bike.


While I understand your point, I have to disagree. Having a brand new bike that you're ashamed of while idling at a stoplight or in the pits is not ok.

And I'm an engineer, I was trained to overthink everything....


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I put one of my bikes map on map share , and use 1600RPM at Idle ,you may need more timing for different exhausts. 2016 ZX10R map ,Autotuned



working on Austin Racing exhaust right now ,fuel map is a bit different but using the same timing map.


1600? Wow, I wouldn't have thought to go that high. I was kinda uncomfortable with 1400. I'll pull your map and take a peek at it.

Right now I have auto tune trying for 13.2, thinking of adding a little more fuel.


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1600? Wow, I wouldn't have thought to go that high. I was kinda uncomfortable with 1400. I'll pull your map and take a peek at it.

Right now I have auto tune trying for 13.2, thinking of adding a little more fuel.


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you don't have to do what i did,you ask a question and give you what I think is right for me, keep the RPM at 1000 add timing .

when you took the back pressure off the engine you have to correct it ,and fuel doesn't correct everything.
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you don't have to do what i did,you ask a question and give you what I think is right for me, keep the RPM at 1000 add timing .



when you took the back pressure off the engine you have to correct it ,and fuel doesn't correct everything.


I don't think you took my comment the way I intended. I was not attacking you or what you did to overcome the issue, just looking for info and experience.

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Here is the way i am doing it on another bike, the rider like you wants a low idle RPM so i set it to 1200RPM at idle.

on ignition map, I set his idle Ignition 1 degree higher, on .6 over 1000,1200 and 1400 RPM

IAP map, I change 24 through 18 over 1000 through 1400 RPM for richer fuel its between 400-500 ,you need to do this manually. then bring the Engine data up and look at A/F should be around 11-12 , you may need to add or deduct fuel for the exhaust you are running.
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Here is the way i am doing it on another bike, the rider like you wants a low idle RPM so i set it to 1200RPM at idle.



on ignition map, I set his idle Ignition 1 degree higher, on .6 over 1000,1200 and 1400 RPM



IAP map, I change 24 through 18 over 1000 through 1400 RPM for richer fuel its between 400-500 ,you need to do this manually. then bring the Engine data up and look at A/F should be around 11-12 , you may need to add or deduct fuel for the exhaust you are running.


That's precisely the info I was looking for! Thank you!


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