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True it does have a taller windscreen on it, and the bars may be wider, however every spec for the 2016 is larger dimensionally. The lightest 1000 supersport bike I know is the 1999 r1 and it was very small, not larger.
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Nice mechanical and chassis updates. I'm still not sold on ABS based on the gen4, so I'll patiently wait to see how the gen5 pans out.

Aesthetics, umm not liking the green busy decal, the front lights look like they have eyeliner applied, the black looks best so far. At least most bikes on the asphalt will only be seeing the back end which is not real pretty either.

The front forks (drool), why the 3 spoke wheels, so many better looking wheels designs?

Quick shifter and Brembo brakes = awesome!!!

Would I upgrade my gen4? Maybe, even though it's wicked fast and pretty much dialed in for my needs.

Kawasaki seems to have the right blend of mechanicals in place to propel and stop the bike, and I have no doubt that this bike will sell like hot cakes, but asthetics is where some fresh inspiration is needed.

It costs the same amount of money to design and build an ugly bike as it does to build an eye candy masterpiece to drool over So why not the latter?

If we are looking at this bike through the Apple lens, then what we have here is a Gen4 "S"
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Price is $16,299 on Kawasaki's website.

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True it does have a taller windscreen on it, and the bars may be wider, however every spec for the 2016 is larger dimensionally. The lightest 1000 supersport bike I know is the 1999 r1 and it was very small, not larger.
Yes, but that doesn't mean much. On paper maybe. But do you really think a 1999 R1 would be competitive against a larger, 2015 R1 or 2016 ZX-10R? The numbers don't mean much by themselves. I'm sure the bar width hasn't really changed in the last 3 decades, because people aren't getting smaller. Weight is about the only thing that's really comparable. Overall dimensional changes are trivial IMO.
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Price is $16,299 on Kawasaki's website.

Yes, also posted here about 20 posts back. Along with the cheaper black model at $15,999

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BTW the gentleman was right, the wheelbase is 0.6" longer and the bike is 11 pounds heavier.

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Where are you getting that from? The steering neck was moved 7.5mm closer to the rider for more weight over the front end. Engine is largely unchanged except for the internals. So any dimensional differences in the specs are in the bodywork. Likely that rear mudflap being extended out (making it seem longer on paper) or the endweights on the bars being longer (making it wider on paper). Don't read into those specs and assume that the bike has really grown in size.

A quick search on the web shows the Gen 4 Specs at 1425mm wheelbase length and the Gen 5 at 1440. I did not verify accuracy, but seems plausible.
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BTW the gentleman was right, the wheelbase is 0.6" longer and the bike is 11 pounds heavier.
My point was that it is still irrelevent. Steering head was moved aft in the chassis and the swingarm was extended for handling reasons. Just because it's a bit longer doesn't automatically translate to a negative change. I was trying to apply the same logic for the width specs.
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I think one thing all the gen 4 people are forgetting is the gen 4 is a great package and now when people crash the gen 5 you have all these lovely bits you can put on your gen 4, because its basically a gen 4 with a new load of kit and some internal changes which no doubt if you really wanted could probably change over, but engine stuff would be lot of work prob cheaper to just get a gen 5 engine off a wreck haha.

in theory to make a gen 4 a gen 5 requirements:

- buy the gen 5 motor from a wreck
- get gen 5 swingarm
- gen 5 airbox
- if you want the bling front end gen 5 forks and brakes

all the engine mount points, subframe and swingarm points are the same, wheels will have the same axle size and spacing no doubt. and i bet all money the subframe rear hasn't changed either just the fairings around it.

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On a different note, this is the first time i have personally seen a manufacture put all the bells and whistles on, like if what they say is true regarding the race exhaust and all the other kit all you need is a slip on and a tinted screen because all the other stuff is done.

lol where does that leave people haha modding is part of the fun.
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