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post #11 of 55 Old 06-24-2017, 08:30 AM
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Yes, I have a few more puzzle pieces from admin at the dealer; reporting from memory per phone contact yesterday:

1. Admin mentioned that tech reported suspicion that one of the valves failed.

2. Admin reported that Kawa corp does NOT 'crate new engines.'

3. Admin reported that Kawa corp instructed technician to photo all parts and include photos with parts request.

4. Admin manager added that Kawa is the only major super manufacturer that does NOT supply new engines. This comment was not negative, simply reporting Kawa policy.

5. Admin dealer is confident that the bike will be as good as new; I have no doubt that the bike will be as good as new.

I still have the '11 and after running the released '13 will request estimate to rebuild the '11.

I'm so in need of a back up bike.

If all goes well, it will be impossible for me to go back to the cbr super.

hope this helps.
I had 2 failures. 1 was at 10k and the other was at 16k both ultimately were covered under warranty but required full rebuilds which took approx 3 mos each time
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I had 2 failures. 1 was at 10k and the other was at 16k both ultimately were covered under warranty but required full rebuilds which took approx 3 mos each time
thx; three months. great.
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Probably changed the oil and filter too frequently.
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Ive never seen, or heard of any of the Japanese selling complete motors. You cant order a complete r1, cbr, or gsxr motor, either.

The pricing would bee too awkward to list.

I have no idea what the figure is, but imagine building a zx10 from the parts catalogue. The price is probably 50-75kk.

With that in mind, I dont imagine they would get to many orders for a crate engine that cost 15k.
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Ive never seen, or heard of any of the Japanese selling complete motors. You cant order a complete r1, cbr, or gsxr motor, either.

The pricing would bee too awkward to list.

I have no idea what the figure is, but imagine building a zx10 from the parts lcatalogue. The price is probably 50-75kk.

With that in mind, I dont imagine they would get to many orders for a crate engine that cost 15k.
The parts list for the latest rebuild was $4200 CAD i think not including labor. Solid 50 hours ontop of that. What i think happened may have happened in my case was the first rebuild wasnt completed properly and that caused the second failure. No real way to know though. Simply speculation.
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Ive had to rebuild some air compressors that developed issues, during warranty.

Always a lousy job because you did not really have the say-so on what all parts were replaced.

The factories did not send everything I wanted to replace. They sent the bare minimum needed to do a semi-decent job.

It was best if the customer approached me and said, "I know I might have to pay, but please replace what you think is necessary." Which rarely happened.

I saw way too many 10.00 dollar seals, or 30.00 gears get installed, or reused, when they should have been replaced.
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Very interesting development, good thing you have the warranty. Glad I got the same thing, five years. A good tech can build your engine back good as new. Mine was better after receiving new frame.
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Happy it's getting fixed Scout. And impressed that it got to 70K.
I plan on never getting rid of my Gen 4, so nice to know that they can get up that high
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Happy it's getting fixed Scout. And impressed that it got to 70K.
I plan on never getting rid of my Gen 4, so nice to know that they can get up that high
Never a prob getting past 100k on past r1's, cbr's and one fz1; I suspect the heavier g5 might have better life span. Now I'd buy extended if offered on any superbike.
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Never a prob getting past 100k on past r1's, cbr's and one fz1; I suspect the heavier g5 might have better life span. Now I'd buy extended if offered on any superbike.
Once you pull the euro 4 bs off G5 really not heavier than G4 Feels lighter too. You should just buy G5 and sell G4 when fixed.
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