Gen 5: 2016 -> [2016] Decent replacement for oem brake pads & fluid - Kawasaki ZX-10R.net
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post #1 of 42 Old 01-19-2018, 10:56 AM Thread Starter
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[2016] Decent replacement for oem brake pads & fluid

I saw a lot of posts discussing brake pads on a race track, but if I do even one track day this year I'd be happy. I ride roughly 20,000 miles per season and I'm looking for brake pads as strong as the oem ones I had... but I know absolutely nothing in this field. Could anyone give me suggestions in that matter ?

For a street bike, how often do you guys change the brake fluids ? I guess I'll have it done with the brake pads. Next step would be brake lines, but that's another story.
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OK, so a couple of questions here for ya...

What is your goal for the pad replacement? "Strong" pads don't really mean much without qualification on that in YOUR VIEW! You see, the mileage itself doesn't matter. You replace the pads when they're worn out. If that happens in 5,000 miles or 25,000 miles will depend on the pad material and how they're used. The pads have wear marks on them like tires do. Once you hit that mark, it's time to start looking for new ones and get them out of there.

Track or race-orientated pads serve primarily to address the fade issue under repeated, hard use. It's also a personal "feel" issue. I hate the types of pads that you have to squeeze really hard on to get the reaction out of them. I like that hard initial bite when the lever it squeezed. So that's why I change the pads out. Vesrah and Carbon Lorraine pads are great in this regard. For me that is. And the higher price of them is worth it. But it's a feedback/confidence issue, not with mileage. I want my brakes to feel a certain way.

If you follow the maintenance schedule, the fluid should be changed out ever 2 years or roughly that. It absorbs water and that degrades the fluid. So that's usual timeframe if it's normal street use. Race track and brake part servicing can shorten that time.

The Gen 5 already comes stock with stainless brake lines, so what's the goal of swapping those in the future?
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I saw a lot of posts discussing brake pads on a race track, but if I do even one track day this year I'd be happy. I ride roughly 20,000 miles per season and I'm looking for brake pads as strong as the oem ones I had... but I know absolutely nothing in this field. Could anyone give me suggestions in that matter ?

For a street bike, how often do you guys change the brake fluids ? I guess I'll have it done with the brake pads. Next step would be brake lines, but that's another story.
Why would you change brake lines?

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EBC Gpfax, for serious canyon or track riding, strong bite with no fade. EBC hh for street occasional track day, fairly strong bite but you may get some fade on track depending on how hard you brake. I go with the Gpfax because I like the hard bite and less lever pressure required. They wear quicker but who's keeping track. Carbon Lorraine didn't work for me. Not aggressive enough.
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Im my humble opinion for this caliper

RSV4 pads oem work great.
stock suzuki pads (gsxr 1000 and 750 with brembos use the same pad), and EBC HH are garbage.
stock pads are good, and H2 uses same pad
EBC GPfax are excellent but wear out very very fast.
Vesrah pads are excellent but you have to chose the correct one for your purpose, they have street one for decent price and more expensive for race. you will see that most of the race guys use them for a reason, japan made.

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+1 on EBC HH for the street/track days.
Do not use race pads on the street; they will not work unless you can keep them hot and if the little water gets on them they are worthless forever......
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EBC HH are absolute garbage. There are sooo many better choices out there...

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Uh, I'll add a -1 to the EBC HH recommendation. The only thing I'd use those pads for would be to hold down my paper maintenance manual in high winds.
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I think that I have EBC hh on my Yamaha fjr1300. They work well enough to stop that Pig. Didn't say they would win any races but if you are looking for an inexpensive pad that works decent, I know they work. They are half the price of Gpfax pads. Which is what I run on my Zx10 and Zx6r. To be honest I want the least expensive pad that works the best. I paid $63.00 for one set of Gpfax pads. HH are like $30 per set. Not trying to defend shit but I have used worse pads.
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First, EBC double H are excellent pads. I have literally hundreds of thousands of miles on them and many super bikes.

Use the oem pads and then try whatever you want. They all work and work best when not needed. Trust me on that.
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