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post #31 of 255 Old 12-15-2012, 04:23 PM Thread Starter
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Does the rear feel really really rock hard with that setup? Like riding a skateboard through the pits? I'm interested in putting the attack link in my bike, however I rode one with it and I could not get the bike to transfer weight to the rear wheel. It was just too stiff.
Spot on - the rear is rock hard, but i think it has more to do with the spring. I think the spring is a bit too stiff for my weight. But then again, i got it sprung for my weight by Ohlins USA and i have a feeling they put the stiffer spring in there for use with the stock linkage. My Static sag is only 23mm with all the preload taken out (preload was taken between lifting the rear into the air and me on the bike)

I am going to try a lighter spring for sure, but i did not have any issue with weight transfer, the bike was a lot better than with the stock setup.

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Does the rear feel really really rock hard with that setup? Like riding a skateboard through the pits? I'm interested in putting the attack link in my bike, however I rode one with it and I could not get the bike to transfer weight to the rear wheel. It was just too stiff.
Ahh. U shouldnt base your opinion on the rear link on how my bike was set-up that day. I took your suggestions & removed alot of compression damping. It did make a difference.
Plus some doh - head(me) had the link installed the wrong way
Not only that. Im 30 lbs heavier then U.

It would be nice to find out if we can buy the electric adjusters & control box for our Ohlins now. (as U asked earlier)
Is it the same shock with the added electronics? Has any body talked to Dan Kyle on this?
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Spot on - the rear is rock hard, but i think it has more to do with the spring. I think the spring is a bit too stiff for my weight. But then again, i got it sprung for my weight by Ohlins USA and i have a feeling they put the stiffer spring in there for use with the stock linkage. My Static sag is only 23mm with all the preload taken out (preload was taken between lifting the rear into the air and me on the bike)

I am going to try a lighter spring for sure, but i did not have any issue with weight transfer, the bike was a lot better than with the stock setup.
23 mm sounds good, doesnt it? What spring? Whats your weight? Many different opinions on springs for these litre bikes.

Going off subject a little. There are 4 of us racing G4s up here. All 4 are fast. Fireman is the fastest.(Exp SBK Champ) His springs would be set-up soft by some peoples standards. Yet he has no problems at all controlling that bike. Having said that. I believe its all the rider. Given time on any of the other G4s he would ride them as fast as his own. (maybe faster )

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I wish I could buy the attack link (or others) with the needle bearings in them. That way I could do back to back comparisons. The electronic adjustable shock might be able to take some of the harshness out at the slower speeds. I'm interested to hear more about it.

And JDS. I am just not sold on a bike that feels harsh. I'm hoping to avoid that on mine. Also, we need another zx10 test day next year. What do you say?
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Spot on - the rear is rock hard, but i think it has more to do with the spring. I think the spring is a bit too stiff for my weight. But then again, i got it sprung for my weight by Ohlins USA and i have a feeling they put the stiffer spring in there for use with the stock linkage. My Static sag is only 23mm with all the preload taken out (preload was taken between lifting the rear into the air and me on the bike)

I am going to try a lighter spring for sure, but i did not have any issue with weight transfer, the bike was a lot better than with the stock setup.
Sorry. Do you have 23 mm of static sag or rider sag? Was the 23mm from full extension to you sitting on the bike?
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Doing a decent test run out in the twisties today.
Did a mix of ~400 kms of tight twisties on wet & slippery roads (TC on 3, full power) followed by high speed sweepers in the dry (TC on 1, full power). Night and day difference over the stock rear shock. 10/10. Feel is incredible, corners on rails now, point and shoot. Correct rear spring for my weight installed by the Ohlins installer, he also dropped the OEM front forks by 4mm and increased the front fork oil level (she's done 32k kms and needed fresh fork oil).

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I wish I could buy the attack link (or others) with the needle bearings in them. That way I could do back to back comparisons. The electronic adjustable shock might be able to take some of the harshness out at the slower speeds. I'm interested to hear more about it.

And JDS. I am just not sold on a bike that feels harsh. I'm hoping to avoid that on mine. Also, we need another zx10 test day next year. What do you say?
Kinda agree with you on the harsh/stiff thing. Now, with electronic dampening could we not stay with the softer spring - then let the electronic dampening take over when heavy on the gas or brakes(front suspension)?

Count me in on the ZX10 test day . Late Apr or early May would be nice

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Sorry. Do you have 23 mm of static sag or rider sag? Was the 23mm from full extension to you sitting on the bike?
With him sitting on the bike(I believe) from fully extended.

Just a note. I only have 5 mm of static sag on mine with the after market plate in & the pre-load maxed out. 10 mm of static sag with 0 pre-load, & 23 mm of sag with me on the bike with full gear on (0 pre-load).

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I've always started with 35mm's and worked around that. then again im not on a new zx10. but base line dial in starts inch n a half.
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23 mm sounds good, doesnt it? What spring? Whats your weight? Many different opinions on springs for these litre bikes.
The code on the Spring is 21040-44/120 L2112 and my weight is 90kg (198lb) with gear - this is the spring that Ohlins USA put on the shock for my weight.
I always had my bikes setup with 30mm, so i found it a little strange to only get a max of 23mm with all the preload taken out.

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Was the 23mm from full extension to you sitting on the bike?
That's correct, the 23mm is between the rear being lifted into the air and me sitting on the bike.

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Now, with electronic dampening could we not stay with the softer spring - then let the electronic dampening take over when heavy on the gas or brakes(front suspension)?
That is what i am thinking and the reason why i want try a softer spring.

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The code on the Spring is 21040-44/120 L2112 and my weight is 90kg (198lb) with gear - this is the spring that Ohlins USA put on the shock for my weight.
I always had my bikes setup with 30mm, so i found it a little strange to only get a max of 23mm with all the preload taken out.



That's correct, the 23mm is between the rear being lifted into the air and me sitting on the bike.



That is what i am thinking and the reason why i want try a softer spring.

Ok. That is 23mm of rider sag then. I use 30mm as a starting point as well. However 23 is not terrible. I will more than likely need a lighter spring as well. if it feels harsh on the track change it. If not I wouldn't worry about it.

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Hey, I just talked to Dan Kyle. Unfortunately we cant buy the electronics seperately. Well we can, but the cost is ridiculus as opposed to just buying a new shock for under $1400

Also, these shocks arnt programable by the average Joe racer. No touching the dampening at all. Install it & let it do its thing. As Bounce stated earlier.

Hmmm. Anybody want to buy a good used TTX for a G4? :-)

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