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Gen.4 ZX-10R: Ceramic Wheel Bearings

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I am in the market to purchase some ceramic wheel bearings for my 2011 ZX-10R. Does anyone have any recommendations which brand I should go with, along with price? I'm also looking to see if anyone has experience with using ceramic bearings on OEM wheels. I would look into lighter wheels like BSTs, etc. But, I don't have that kind of money.

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Worldwide bearing. They have pretty good reviews on the ceramic hybrids or full ceramic.


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Worldwide bearing. They have pretty good reviews on the ceramic hybrids or full ceramic.


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Hybrids use a steel outer and inner race with ceramic balls. They offer improved fiction over normal bearings at a lot lower price point than full ceramics. Full ceramics will set you back close to $500 versus $300 something for the hybrids.

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Hybrids use a steel outer and inner race with ceramic balls. They offer improved fiction over normal bearings at a lot lower price point than full ceramics. Full ceramics will set you back close to $500 versus $300 something for the hybrids.
Interesting. I'm guessing for these to be this expensive, they must be pretty effective. lol
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Interesting. I'm guessing for these to be this expensive, they must be pretty effective. lol

The reduction in overall rolling friction is pretty impressive.

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From my understanding, full ceramic is made more for vacuum environments,MRi machines, and things like that. but thats probably grade 25 to 100

grade 5 is the strongest of them

If you get a set, be sure to get a set that specifies quality on the seal. BC alot of ceramic failure is due to debris and cheaper seals. I dont know to much about them, but the white ceramic is suppose to be brittle.
I use to rewind/restore electric motors with my dad. From single to really big 3 phase. we tried using ceramic bearings in our pumps, bc we hoped they would hold in a wet environment better. However the sets we tried disintegrated under pressure (these pumps where very very hard on any bearing, requiring constant change and maintenance)

Really though, this was years ago, and im sure the motorcycle specific bearings are probably grade 5 and top notch-in seal protection.

The Largest amount of friction in bearings comes from the grease

EDIT Im interested in this also now and going to do some research myself. Bearings are something easy to change and when i need a set i may try this. I called my dad and asked him if there was an update on bearings he uses in the pumps. He told me the pumps have been reworked with new units, and he has been using full ceramic in them for a while now. He also said if it wasn't for cost, he would put them in the oil rig motors also. But those guys want them as cheap as possible. Those pumps and motors work 24/7 rain, sleet, or snow

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I am in the market to purchase some ceramic wheel bearings for my 2011 ZX-10R. Does anyone have any recommendations which brand I should go with, along with price? I'm also looking to see if anyone has experience with using ceramic bearings on OEM wheels. I would look into lighter wheels like BSTs, etc. But, I don't have that kind of money.

Any input is greatly appreciated!
My input; these bearings are quite sensitive to any contamination. They are used quite a lot in bicycles (high-end stuff) but require frequent maintenance and replacement. The sealed ball bearings in your bike are of excellent quality and will give very good service for years. If you want to play around with this by all means, but realize the trade-off in slightly less friction is offset by a much less robust bearing overall. This application is for machines that can be serviced frequently and fairly easily (pumps, bicycles, and so on), not for vehicles like motorcycles that are ridden for years and need to be reliable under a wide variety of conditions (dirt, dust, water, snow, hard usage).
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My input; these bearings are quite sensitive to any contamination. They are used quite a lot in bicycles (high-end stuff) but require frequent maintenance and replacement. The sealed ball bearings in your bike are of excellent quality and will give very good service for years. If you want to play around with this by all means, but realize the trade-off in slightly less friction is offset by a much less robust bearing overall. This application is for machines that can be serviced frequently and fairly easily (pumps, bicycles, and so on), not for vehicles like motorcycles that are ridden for years and need to be reliable under a wide variety of conditions (dirt, dust, water, snow, hard usage).
I appreciate the input. But, they make ceramic wheel bearings specifically for motorcycles I believe.
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I have the world wide ceramic wheel bearings. They work great, but the bearings alone won't make a huge difference.

Everyone always hates on me when I say this but super-light wheels and bearings don't make a huge difference; At least in road racing. Now I'm not saying you won't notice them....just that I'd have everything else like suspension and geometry dialed in before I bought some couple hundred dollar bearings. I've had BST's, marchesinis and a set of OZ wheels with worldwide bearings in all of them...no failures.

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