: 08 10R Akra slip on is installed!
ninja44 07-25-2008, 06:09 PM Ok well I got the can on and it looks great! There was NO link pipe with this kit and that is what I ordered and what I was led to believe I was getting. I not sure what happened but Superbike supply is looking into it and hopefully this will get resolved at some point after they investigate it. The only flaws were the clamp that holds the tab for the exhaust spring, it's too fuggin small! There is no way in hell that clamp will go around the exhaust, it either needs to be a bigger clamp or provide a longer bolt. I just put the spring under the stock muffler clamp to hold one end and the other end on the welded on loop in the pipe itself. I'll probably hit the hardware store and see if I can find a longer bolt at some point. The graphite sleeve was ripped through on one side though that's not a big deal. I'm very shocked as up until this point I've considered Akrapovic to be PERFECT and they have been until now! I sort of wish I bought the Yosh shortie now as I'm extremely disappointed about the link pipe not being there and the clamp issue. I guess I'll have to wait and see what other people have got and hopefully I was an isolated incident and Superbike supply gets to the bottom of this.
Here are some pics....
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9R to 10R 07-25-2008, 06:24 PM pics?
ninja44 07-25-2008, 06:26 PM Added some crappy phone pics, I'll break out the SLR tomorrow and get some better pics.
Slims10R 07-25-2008, 06:55 PM Brad and Mary are really good and have always takin care of any problems I've had. I have 2 Akro cans and everythings always been great with em. You may have just gotten a bad package. Hopefully you'll get it sorted out
JimmyJam 07-25-2008, 08:27 PM Ok well I got the can on and it looks great! There was NO link pipe with this kit and that is what I ordered and what I was led to believe I was getting. I not sure what happened but Superbike supply is looking into it and hopefully this will get resolved at some point after they investigate it. The only flaws were the clamp that holds the tab for the exhaust spring, it's too fuggin small! There is no way in hell that clamp will go around the exhaust, it either needs to be a bigger clamp or provide a longer bolt. I just put the spring under the stock muffler clamp to hold one end and the other end on the welded on loop in the pipe itself. I'll probably hit the hardware store and see if I can find a longer bolt at some point. The graphite sleeve was ripped through on one side though that's not a big deal. I'm very shocked as up until this point I've considered Akrapovic to be PERFECT and they have been until now! I sort of wish I bought the Yosh shortie now as I'm extremely disappointed about the link pipe not being there and the clamp issue. I guess I'll have to wait and see what other people have got and hopefully I was an isolated incident and Superbike supply gets to the bottom of this.
Yep I thought that to.
Did you happen to see that thread where I posted about all the install issues I had with my Akra system?
Nevertheless your 10R's color and the CF Akra pipe are the best looking combo I have seen yet.
Congrats to ya! :thumbsup:
JJ
kawi1000 07-25-2008, 08:34 PM here you go.:thumbsup:
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konichd 07-25-2008, 08:47 PM Thats the best looking 08 I've seen so far! Superbike Supply will get you fixed up.
9R to 10R 07-25-2008, 09:12 PM The orange is fricking great! Love it
CP10R 07-25-2008, 10:53 PM The orange is fricking great! Love it
:+1:
ninja44 07-26-2008, 12:04 AM I'm not so sure now if that link pipe was supposed to be there or not:dontknow: I read about JJ's problems and even though I still love the Akra pipes (last 3 bikes had Akra) I think they are kind of slipping in the quality dept. lately. I remember a post by Surfside Moto a while back stating that they weren't sure if the link pipe S/O's were coming to North America. That link pipe is the only reason I have held out for so long and didn't get the Yosh shortie or Growler. If I had known I would have bought the Akra Evo system to get rid of that dang boombox:lol: I have no doubt in my mind that Brad and Mary will do what they can but if I can't get the link pipe from Akra then I'll wait to see what the hindle link pipe looks like or just weld that little clamp onto the stock boombox. Don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful can and sounds just the way an Akra should but these little annoyances have me seriously disappointed in Akra.
JimmyJam 07-26-2008, 09:02 AM I'm not so sure now if that link pipe was supposed to be there or not:dontknow: I read about JJ's problems and even though I still love the Akra pipes (last 3 bikes had Akra) I think they are kind of slipping in the quality dept. lately. I remember a post by Surfside Moto a while back stating that they weren't sure if the link pipe S/O's were coming to North America. That link pipe is the only reason I have held out for so long and didn't get the Yosh shortie or Growler. If I had known I would have bought the Akra Evo system to get rid of that dang boombox:lol: I have no doubt in my mind that Brad and Mary will do what they can but if I can't get the link pipe from Akra then I'll wait to see what the hindle link pipe looks like or just weld that little clamp onto the stock boombox. Don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful can and sounds just the way an Akra should but these little annoyances have me seriously disappointed in Akra.
I have asked YZF at least 15 times to post a pix of his link pipe with the heat shield off, but for some reason he just want do it. Takes what, 1 minute to remove the heat shield?
C,mon YZF, lets see the link pipe.
Akrapovic may have grown to big for their britches and now its affecting the QC.
You shouldn't have to "hill billy massage" a $1300.00 dollar exhaust system. But now its done, I am 100% Happy with it, but if I had to do it over again I would have keep my AREA P slip on (which I really did like a lot) and my $1300.00.
I could have took the 1300 bucks and bought some "blingbo" front calipers.
Anyone want to buy a slightly used FULL Akra Race system thats "gauranteed" to fit perfect?
JJ
anthonyzx10r2008 07-26-2008, 09:22 AM Thats the best looking 08 I've seen so far! Superbike Supply will get you fixed up.
i went to the site ,didnt see anything for the 2008 zx10r , can you post the link thanks
Ervins 07-26-2008, 09:53 AM Nice.
ninja44 07-26-2008, 11:50 AM I have asked YZF at least 15 times to post a pix of his link pipe with the heat shield off, but for some reason he just want do it. Takes what, 1 minute to remove the heat shield?
C,mon YZF, lets see the link pipe.
Akrapovic may have grown to big for their britches and now its affecting the QC.
You shouldn't have to "hill billy massage" a $1300.00 dollar exhaust system. But now its done, I am 100% Happy with it, but if I had to do it over again I would have keep my AREA P slip on (which I really did like a lot) and my $1300.00.
I could have took the 1300 bucks and bought some "blingbo" front calipers.
Anyone want to buy a slightly used FULL Akra Race system thats "gauranteed" to fit perfect?
JJ
If that was a carbon can JJ I would be all over it:mrgreen:
diesel10R 07-26-2008, 11:52 AM :drool::drool:love the orange....looks sick:deathmeta
I have asked YZF at least 15 times to post a pix of his link pipe with the heat shield off, but for some reason he just want do it. Takes what, 1 minute to remove the heat shield?
C,mon YZF, lets see the link pipe.
Akrapovic may have grown to big for their britches and now its affecting the QC.
You shouldn't have to "hill billy massage" a $1300.00 dollar exhaust system. But now its done, I am 100% Happy with it, but if I had to do it over again I would have keep my AREA P slip on (which I really did like a lot) and my $1300.00.
I could have took the 1300 bucks and bought some "blingbo" front calipers.
Anyone want to buy a slightly used FULL Akra Race system thats "gauranteed" to fit perfect?
JJ
If i was living in the same place I keep my bike, that would be not a problem. Nevertheless I think i'll do it today or latest tomorrow.
ninja44 07-26-2008, 11:55 AM Does anybody you know over there have the link pipe in stock? I have a friend in Germany right now and she can bring it back for me if so.
JimmyJam 07-26-2008, 12:00 PM If i was living in the same place I keep my bike, that would be not a problem. Nevertheless I think i'll do it today or latest tomorrow.
Well that must suck big hairy nasty ones!
I would like to see the pix of the link pipe though.
Hated to have to "call you out"! :thumbsup:
JJ
JimmyJam 07-26-2008, 12:05 PM If that was a carbon can JJ I would be all over it:mrgreen:
Don't be surprised if I take the Akra off and eBay it and put the AREA P back on. I really liked that AREA P.
It tucked in nice and the can was turned or angled back towards the center of the wheel. It was a very nice piece and a PERFECT fit, wasn't loud, had a beautiful Carbon fiber pattern used allen bolts instead of rivets to assemble it and I even liked the odd looking outlet.
I even liked the look of the big gap with the heat shield missing.
I made a mistake and admit it when I do and am damn pissed about it.
Nothing wrong with the Akra, now, but if I had to do it over again the Area P would still be on my bike and it has nothing to do with the money difference.
JJ
espen 07-26-2008, 02:02 PM There should be a significant increase in power with the Akra compared to the Area P, so I do not understand why you would switch back?
Ok here are link-pipe pics (specialy for JJ)
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Alien10 07-26-2008, 04:10 PM Looks good Sean! :thumbsup:
JimmyJam 07-26-2008, 04:43 PM Ok here are link-pipe pics (specialy for JJ)
Thats awesome and Thank You very much. If I haven't given you any rep anytime soon, some coming.
JJ
JimmyJam 07-26-2008, 04:50 PM There should be a significant increase in power with the Akra compared to the Area P, so I do not understand why you would switch back?
Significant? I doubt it. Remember I have ridden the bike with both systems and the "butt dyno" says no difference.
The Akra can is to long though I can live with it. If it was CF I would cut it down.
The Akra can is also not designed as well as it could be. The end of the exhaust should angle back so the exhaust flows into the bikes slipstream, like the AREA P does.
I'm still not happy with the shitty Quality Control but am over it for the most part.
The AREA P Carbon Fiber can looks much better IMO.
The AREA P can is easily repackable by being assemble with allen bolts versus rivets, and probably even quieter as well.
The stock headpipes are the same internal diameter as the Akra, so I don't see where there is much advantage.
AREA P and the Akra back to back on the dyno? It would be interesting to see but my guess is no more than 2-3 HP difference and that is not significant in my book.
Im not sure what I am going to do. Nothing for the moment.
JJ
Jonathan o 07-26-2008, 09:56 PM Thats the best looking 08 I've seen so far! Superbike Supply will get you fixed up.
:+2:
spikespiegel 07-26-2008, 10:19 PM loooks great, i think its a bit long too; i have loved Akro products and can't believe the quality is down this time! Thats kinda shocking but i'm still gonna give em a shot
ninja44 07-27-2008, 12:56 AM *updated 1st page with better pics*
I went out for a 15 min ride today and man does the bike wake up! It improved the throttle response and it now sounds just the way the bike should:thumbsup: On another note I noticed also that the bike doesn't pop on decel the way my 06 did and see no need to remove the KLEEN system. If I get a PC3 or some type of fueling then I'll remove it then.
solo4092 07-27-2008, 04:56 AM That Damn orange is Fucking sweet.
ninja44 07-27-2008, 08:25 PM Sounds better on the 08 than 06 for some odd reason, maybe cause it's one can instead of 2 . It definitely sounds the cat's ass!
ZX-10R_Sinner 07-27-2008, 08:33 PM Nice pictures, awesome bike for sure. Having heard the Akra on youtube, yeah that's an awesome sound.
05ZixxR 07-27-2008, 09:10 PM wow...thats a great looking machine
ninja44 07-28-2008, 10:32 AM Well the word from Brad was that the Akra slip on system was supposed to come with the link pipe. This is what the Supplier, Brad and myself were led to believe. It turns out that it does not come with it and it has to be special ordered. Brad offered for me to return the exhaust for a refund but I'll keep it as it is already here and paid for. I'm disappointed about the link pipe and spring clamp issue but what can you do:dontknow: It sounds great and looks awesome so we'll see what happens.
Take bake money for the link pipe and buy link-pipe seperately from other online shops (it costs about 100eur or smth). Ship it to US then.
ninja44 07-28-2008, 11:47 AM They never offered to refund the money for a link pipe as this is the price for the slip on I guess:dontknow: I know I'll get raped for shipping to Canada from Europe. Do you know any shops in your area that have the link pipe in stock? I'd appreciate the help YZF:thumbsup:
When anyone (no matter who) makes an order in the Akrapovic dealer program, slip on and link pipe are sold seperately! And order is made from two parts: part number and price for slip on and part number and price for link-pipe. So you just need to say to your supplier that he give you back money for link-pipe only as this was ordered seperately from slip on. There is no option in Akrapovic database as "sliponlinkpipe - 1pcs".
Check www.calsport.co.uk
JimmyJam 07-28-2008, 01:00 PM I would think that Brad would get his Akrapovic stuff from the same place as say Hard Racing. That would be Lockhart Phillips. Try google Lockhart Phillips and see what they have listed as available on their website.
How much did the CF slip on cost ya?
JJ
ninja44 07-28-2008, 01:30 PM In that case ALL Akra slip on orders through all vendors in North America will not have the link pipe then. I guess it was just bad info from the suppliers (ie. Lockhart, Parts Unlimited). There is nothing to refund as there is so much confusion and Brad never offered me a partial refund for the link pipe. I think he asked the supplier to look into the cost of the link pipe so I hope he looks after me there when I order the link pipe. I just think the suppliers had their heads up their asses and handed out some very bad info. I paid $569 for the slip on + the shipping to Canada JJ.
JimmyJam 07-28-2008, 03:34 PM In that case ALL Akra slip on orders through all vendors in North America will not have the link pipe then. I guess it was just bad info from the suppliers (ie. Lockhart, Parts Unlimited). There is nothing to refund as there is so much confusion and Brad never offered me a partial refund for the link pipe. I think he asked the supplier to look into the cost of the link pipe so I hope he looks after me there when I order the link pipe. I just think the suppliers had their heads up their asses and handed out some very bad info. I paid $569 for the slip on + the shipping to Canada JJ.
I'm sure I read somewhere that Lockhart "fracking" Phillips would not be importing any with the link pipe into the states. Can't remember where.
Try contacting Akrapovic direct and tell them you got hosed and see if they will work a deal out with ya for a link pipe. Worth a shot.
On the other hand, you can be patient and in a few months something will show up on eBay.
The Boom Box is NOT a restriction in my opinion. So performance probably doesnt suffer much and the BB may keep the nosie down some as well. I know YZF says his is loud as hell and he has the link pipe and no BB pre muffler. Funny thing though my full system is eeerily quiet without the noise insert.
JJ
hotfocuson18s 07-28-2008, 05:36 PM yeah its hot
MJHunter 07-28-2008, 06:18 PM Just received my CF and there was no link pipe. I asked twice and they confirmed both times that it was included. I am upset with the whole deal so it looks like I am going to be spending about the same that I would have for the Growler!
ninja44 07-28-2008, 06:33 PM Can you check and see if the included clamp for the spring fits? My clamp was either too small or the bolt is too short, thanks.
MJHunter 07-28-2008, 06:52 PM It will not clamp around the boom box pipe. This is outrageous! It's either sized for the link pipe or someone only measured once.
MJHunter 07-28-2008, 07:18 PM Also, how in the hell do you get the insert out? I have never seen an allen head that will fit in that size of space?
ninja44 07-28-2008, 07:19 PM The link pipe has a tab welded on for the spring so it's not for the link pipe. Either the bolt ain't long enough or the clamp is to small. Where did you order the pipe from? Lockhart told all vendors that the link pipe was included with this kit so Lockhart F'ed up and they charged the price as if the link pipe was included and in turn we paid for a S/O with a LINK PIPE. SS had offered to take the exhaust back and give me a refund but I have the pipe and I would lose money with paying the shipping and taxes already. Ideally our site vendors suppliers should be making this right and sending the dang link pipe. I was OK before but this has got me a wee bit pissed off now.
ninja44 07-28-2008, 07:21 PM Also, how in the hell do you get the insert out? I have never seen an allen head that will fit in that size of space?
Use a 6mm (If I remember right) box wrench and loosen it up then use the open end to finish off.
MJHunter 07-28-2008, 07:44 PM Thanks for the advice on the screw.
Ordered mine from SS as well and not blaming anything on them. As you stated, a supplier should be compensating a link pipe or something towards one. I am not sure what I am going to do with mine. I am highly aggravated right now.
JimmyJam 07-28-2008, 08:10 PM You guys got F#CKED, send the sh!t back. I can't believe Akra would have made those in the 1st place without the link pipe, but they did.
I am not happy with my Akra purchase either.
I guess now Akra are doing Cars and Carbon Fiber parts they have lost whatever they had that was special about them.
JJ
ninja44 07-28-2008, 08:16 PM Thanks for the advice on the screw.
Ordered mine from SS as well and not blaming anything on them. As you stated, a supplier should be compensating a link pipe or something towards one. I am not sure what I am going to do with mine. I am highly aggravated right now.
Call Brad and tell him the situation. The more customer calls the better! I called him today and sent e mails with pics and seeing as we have the same issues it will only make it better if anything is going to be done. I had also sent an e mail to SS to double check and make sure the link pipe was there before shipping and SS replied that it was there! If it wasn't I would have cancelled my order and got the Evo system. Brad said to order the link pipe would cost the price of a full system or something to that degree which I think is total BS on the supplier's end. Lockhart won't take responsibility for their screw up! I got the impression of "ahh well" from the message that Brad relayed to me after speaking with the supplier. Brad apologized and I know he feels bad but if SS is an "in house" customer account then I hope he presses the vendor to get this link pipe situation sorted out. I feel your aggravation man.
JJ....being in Canada I would lose $$$ sending it back which I'm not about to do. SS needs to press on Lockhart to resolve this situation. I'm a patient man so we shall see what happens.
You guys got F#CKED, send the sh!t back. I can't believe Akra would have made those in the 1st place without the link pipe, but they did.
I am not happy with my Akra purchase either.
I guess now Akra are doing Cars and Carbon Fiber parts they have lost whatever they had that was special about them.
JJ
The problem with Akra is NOT build quality (generally) but parts distribution, package shippment,etc...when i ordered two years ago slipons for my 06zx10r, one was missing rubber ring seal. They did send it to me after some time.
Now when i ordered slipon for 08zx10r, one additional clamp was missing (i got away with stock graphite ring so its not a problem but anyway...). You don't have link pipes,etc...
So there are problems getting those parts. But once you have them, they are good.
I'm sure I read somewhere that Lockhart "fracking" Phillips would not be importing any with the link pipe into the states. Can't remember where.
Try contacting Akrapovic direct and tell them you got hosed and see if they will work a deal out with ya for a link pipe. Worth a shot.
On the other hand, you can be patient and in a few months something will show up on eBay.
The Boom Box is NOT a restriction in my opinion. So performance probably doesnt suffer much and the BB may keep the nosie down some as well. I know YZF says his is loud as hell and he has the link pipe and no BB pre muffler. Funny thing though my full system is eeerily quiet without the noise insert.
JJ
Interestingly though, i see 9 different versions of Full Akra systems for 08ZX10R on calsport.co.uk.....
ninja44 07-29-2008, 08:36 AM The boombox keeps the popping on decel in check. My bike without the link pipe reduces the popping drastically and I would think it has a very SLIGHT restriction.
JimmyJam 07-29-2008, 08:50 AM The boombox keeps the popping on decel in check. My bike without the link pipe reduces the popping drastically and I would think it has a very SLIGHT restriction.
The boom box is wide open thru it. I have measured it, but it may have some sort of resonant effect ugling it up somehow to some degree. :dontknow:
I had just a little popping on decell with Area P and with Akra full system the same amount. My guess is it is there with the stock can but you just dont hear it with the stock cans butterfly closed.
Not enough to bother me though.
JJ
JimmyJam 07-29-2008, 09:10 AM Look at these prices for full systems.
2008 Kawasaki ZX10R Akrapovic Evolution Full Exhaust System with Hex Canister
Sale Price: $1,648.95
Akrapovic, makers of the absolute FINEST Hand-Made exhaust systems available, supplies the AMA Factory Race Teams with their superior exhaust systems. Features precision TIG welding, Conical 4-2-1 Titanium Headers, Titanium or Carbon Fiber wrap canister, with a Titanium inner sleeve and Carbon Fiber Cone End Cap!
2008 Kawasaki ZX10R Akrapovic Racing Full Exhaust with Hex Canister
Sale Price: $1,158.95
greg 0410r/6rr 07-29-2008, 10:30 AM the carbon definately looks the best
morefire 07-29-2008, 10:34 AM Look at these prices for full systems.
2008 Kawasaki ZX10R Akrapovic Evolution Full Exhaust System with Hex Canister
Sale Price: $1,648.95
Akrapovic, makers of the absolute FINEST Hand-Made exhaust systems available, supplies the AMA Factory Race Teams with their superior exhaust systems. Features precision TIG welding, Conical 4-2-1 Titanium Headers, Titanium or Carbon Fiber wrap canister, with a Titanium inner sleeve and Carbon Fiber Cone End Cap!
Yeah, but who has them in stock?
2008 Kawasaki ZX10R Akrapovic Racing Full Exhaust with Hex Canister
Sale Price: $1,158.95
Yeah, but who has them in stock?
ninja44 07-29-2008, 10:53 AM Well the only thing Lockhart is willing to do is take the exhaust back and get a refund. They will pay the shipping to return it but I lose the shipping I paid to get it to me. I'm not about to lose money on something somebody else screwed up and I'm not about to lose the taxes I paid when the exhaust arrived. It doesn't make any economical sense to me to return it. Brad is gonna get back to me on the issues with the link pipe and clamp. Lockhart may feel bad about misleading people that bought the S/O's but I know for a fact that Akrapovic don't give 2 shits about the consumers as they will do nothing about this. It was Akrapovic's fault to begin with by shipping these systems out and IMO, shipping out the wrong part numbers. It's too bad about the shitty QC, this has severely turned me off of ever buying another Akra pipe again but in the end they've gotten so big they just don't care anyway.
The main difference i definitely saw between boombox and link pipe was WEIGHT. That difference was huge.
You loose lots of weight removing stock can and stock boombox. Probably about ~8kg total.
Thats gen1 weight after this change.
Rspec99 07-29-2008, 03:33 PM The main difference i definitely saw between boombox and link pipe was WEIGHT. That difference was huge.
You loose lots of weight removing stock can and stock boombox. Probably about ~8kg total.
Thats gen1 weight after this change.
Akrapovic claims a 3.48kg loss from the link pipe and slip on. The full exhaust EVO is 7.28kg weight loss. Those are big numbers for sure, and you lose way more weight than the Gen 2's 3.65kg and Gen 1's 2.32kg.
The Gen 3's wet weight stock is about 463lbs, compared to the Gen 1's wet weight of 433lbs. That's 30lbs or 13.63kg. Even with the full $1600+ Evo full ti system the Gen 3 will be about 6.35kg (14lbs) heavier than a stock Gen 1.
I am not slagging the Gen 3 (I really like it and thinking of getting one myself) or debating which bike is better. I'm just laying out the facts according to Akrapovic.
The "wet weight" numbers aren't very accurate. They never were.... so this calculation is only aproximate.
Never the less that stock pipe and boombox weights A LOT. Bike is not heavy after this mod. Not heavier "by feel" than any other 1000cc SB
Rspec99 07-29-2008, 04:12 PM The wet weight numbers I provided are sourced by empirical testing from published magazines, and not from the manufacturers who tend to wildly exaggerate. Unlike dyno numbers, they simply fill the bike with gas and oil and roll it onto the scales, and the results are often repeatable and should vary little.
I am sure it feels a lot lighter, and losing 3+kg with nothing more than a slip on is very admirable. In the power and handling stakes the Gen 3 has all the 1000cc's covered. However, in the weight dept. the new CBR and 1098's have a significant weight advantage. It's going to take a lot more than just a pipe to be level with the class lightweights.
lexusrx 07-29-2008, 04:53 PM ok guys. i finally got some info back from lp. they are in the process of bringing in the link pipes. at this time they do not have a time frame or price but they are getting it in the works.
as far as having the link pipe in with the slip we as well as lp were told by akra that it was included. as you now know this isnt the case.
now, in regards to the install issue. the kit you currently have will mount up correctly. what needs to happen is you will need to install the "clamp" you received from akra first. remove the oem graphite sleeve. slide the akra graphite sleeve on then install the can. at that time you would re-install your stock clamp. finally, install the akra spring.
Big Daddy 07-29-2008, 04:58 PM as far as having the link pipe in with the slip we as well as lp were told by akra that it was included. as you now know this isnt the case.
My question would be 'is Akra going to make it right for the general public that were under the impression it was included when they made their purchase??'. They should duely take the blame for misinformation and not its dist like yourself.
BD
JimmyJam 07-29-2008, 05:12 PM Akrapovic has gotten to big for their brtiches. Expanding to make Carbon Fiber parts and car parts is ruining them. Happens all to often to many companies.
How ANY engineer at Akrapovic would even consider making and selling a slip on still using the boom box is a joke.
Most likely I will be eBaying my FULL Akra system and going back to my AREA P. That pipe looked great, fit great, sounded great, and hauled the mail.
Must be a reason Akra are selling their sh!t so cheap now as well. Full EVO systems for 1600.00. Cutting corners, production QC sux. US economy bad, many people short on ca$h, except 9R to 10R of course. :lol:
JJ
ninja44 07-29-2008, 05:30 PM ok guys. i finally got some info back from lp. they are in the process of bringing in the link pipes. at this time they do not have a time frame or price but they are getting it in the works.
as far as having the link pipe in with the slip we as well as lp were told by akra that it was included. as you now know this isnt the case.
now, in regards to the install issue. the kit you currently have will mount up correctly. what needs to happen is you will need to install the "clamp" you received from akra first. remove the oem graphite sleeve. slide the akra graphite sleeve on then install the can. at that time you would re-install your stock clamp. finally, install the akra spring.
The Akra supplied clamp cannot fit around any tubing at all, it cannot fully wrap around the pipe be it on the boombox outlet or Akra piping. The clamp is either too small or the bolt is too short. In the pic below I marked with a red arrow where the Akra clamp is supposed to mount and there is no chance in hell it can fit around that section and it is about the same diameter as the inlet on the Akra can that slips into the boombox. http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/9466/img1277dm9.jpg
ninja44 07-29-2008, 11:49 PM In the following pics you can see just how small the clamp or bolt is. This is applying as much pressure as I can and they just won't come together. If there is any other place to put it then I'm all ears:dontknow:
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lexusrx 07-30-2008, 10:52 AM My question would be 'is Akra going to make it right for the general public that were under the impression it was included when they made their purchase??'. They should duely take the blame for misinformation and not its dist like yourself.
BDi hate to say it but i dont think they will. there have been emails sent to akra but no answer has come back on this yet.
i will say that lp is willing to take back any of these slips if the customer wants to send them back. i think that is as good as you will get from any dist. at least they are willing to do the right thing, on their part.
if i get any type of response from akra on this i WILL pass the info on.
ninja44 07-30-2008, 11:17 AM I guess customers like myself and ones who may have ordered from out of the country are SOL then as we will lose money by sending it back so it's not an option for some. If LP can make this right and press Akra to do something about the misinformation regarding the link pipe then that'll be a good start. The clamp issue is a PITA but not really a big deal as I can give it a hillbilly massage :lol: Thanks for the info Brad.
ninja> how many aditional clamps you have got? I also recieve that small clamp, but I did not use it because it is for slip on "street legal" with boombox version. Not the slipon+link pipe version.
Did you get also more clamps? If you did recieve one more, and it doesn't fit, might be because it is designed to fit link pipe -> main exhaust section.
You use stock clamp for fitting slipion-> link pipe section.
So problem with you is not clamps, but missing linkpipe.
Slipon with link pipe goes like this:
sliponexhaust --> stock clamp <-- linkpipe --> akra big clamp <---> main exhaust.
(small, narrow clamp is not used at all)
ninja44 07-30-2008, 12:06 PM I only got the 1 clamp shown in the pictures to secure the spring on the boombox side. I don't have the clamp here with me at work and was trying to figure out the bolt thread size. It looks like an M6 bolt but I could be wrong, maybe it's an M4:dontknow:
Big Daddy 07-30-2008, 12:58 PM i hate to say it but i dont think they will. there have been emails sent to akra but no answer has come back on this yet.
that's a damn shame on many counts. fugg i don't even have a bike to mount a system to but if i were in the market you can bet AKRA is off the list of possibilities now and in the future.
The only way we the public can speak is with our wallet by not purchasing their products no matter how high the quality is. Its easy for me to sit and say everyone that purchased lately and got the shaft should return them out of pure principal even though there's a monetary loss but thats the message that needs to be sent.
BD
Basically the problem is that you are in USA :) Here in EU you can get everything, and much faster and through dealer chain, return back with no cost and get what you need. Thats the way it is, this is still Slovenian company and not GM or whatever.
I only got the 1 clamp shown in the pictures to secure the spring on the boombox side. I don't have the clamp here with me a towrk and was trying to figure out the bolt thread size. It lloks like an M6 bolt but I could be wrong, maybe it's an M4:dontknow:
So you are missing link pipe and akra clamp for linkpipe -> main exhaust connection (i did not get this one too, but my dealer said it is odered and i'll get it). Although i work my way differently.
ninja44 07-30-2008, 01:47 PM that's a damn shame on many counts. fugg i don't even have a bike to mount a system to but if i were in the market you can bet AKRA is off the list of possibilities now and in the future.
The only way we the public can speak is with our wallet by not purchasing their products no matter how high the quality is. Its easy for me to sit and say everyone that purchased lately and got the shaft should return them out of pure principal even though there's a monetary loss but thats the message that needs to be sent.
BD
I hear what you are saying BD. I'll sit tight for a bit and see if Brad can get something worked out with this. If I get pissed off enough I'll smash this thing to pieces and send it right back to Akra in a box with a message about what I think of this whole situation. As it stands this is the last Akra part that I buy ever. It's something I did not expect of a company with their reputation in the motorcycle industry and I'm severely disappointed in a once great company.
Big Daddy 07-30-2008, 01:56 PM Basically the problem is that you are in USA :) Here in EU you can get everything, and much faster and through dealer chain, return back with no cost and get what you need. Thats the way it is, this is still Slovenian company and not GM or whatever.
no actually its AKRA's problem that they can't provide the very same customer service for any country around the world not just those in the EU as their products are sold around the world therefor be responsible for misadvertisement and serve the very people that feed you(or AKRA in this instance)
BD
Dragone 07-30-2008, 02:30 PM yup, a world known company should have world known customer service to back it up.
no actually its AKRA's problem that they can't provide the very same customer service for any country around the world not just those in the EU as their products are sold around the world therefor be responsible for misadvertisement and serve the very people that feed you(or AKRA in this instance)
BD
Yes ofcourse, they should be able to do everything the same way in all countries they are selling products.
But in reality situation is different and that word "should" sometimes changes to "can't". Thats the real life....
ninja44 07-31-2008, 09:56 AM Well I have searched all over Toronto at all the major stores that sell fasteners and bolts and it had been IMPOSSIBLE to find an M4 bolt that is long enough to fit the gap needed to close the clamp. It has to be at least 1 1/4 inches and it is a fine thread pitch. The only other option would be to permanently weld the clamp to the boombox which is a last resort for me and it seems that I'm getting there very soon.
hesaves0211 07-31-2008, 10:03 AM i like how you left out the front end of you bike in the pics. like your bangin a "butter-face", and are trying to put a paper bag on your bike:wink:.
other than that, im loving the bike:thumbsup:
ninja44 07-31-2008, 07:42 PM OK for those looking for a fix for the small clamp issue I have fixed the screw up. Head to Home Depot or Lowe's for you Americans and ask the guy for an M4 bolt in a 2 inch length. The ones I got (pack of 12) are used for walls or something lol. I cut the bolt down to 1 1/2 inches and if fits perfectly with room to spare. It shouldn't have had to come to this but until this is resolved this will do the job.
ballistic1 05-05-2009, 02:58 PM just a fyi i got with my kit a longer bolt, at least a 1 1/2 long and the clamp still wont close ,seems my clamp is to smal not the bolt.not for nothing but do we really need this spring it seems to me everything is tight and not going to move .
ninja44 05-05-2009, 05:17 PM just a fyi i got with my kit a longer bolt, at least a 1 1/2 long and the clamp still wont close ,seems my clamp is to smal not the bolt.not for nothing but do we really need this spring it seems to me everything is tight and not going to move .
The spring is more for looks if you don't have the link pipe. Once you bolt in the can it's not going anywhere. The once great Akrapovic that prided itself on quality is slipping lately it seems.
ballistic1 05-05-2009, 05:38 PM Thanks thats what I thought spring @ Clamp seemed useless for my set up with no mid pipe .Thanks
ballistic1 05-05-2009, 05:42 PM Seems that akro has been sliping on some of the products ,my can is nice but do have a small air leak but it could be how it was installed I just have to get around to taking it back off and see if the gasket is in all the way .
ninja44 05-05-2009, 06:50 PM Can you sum up in total what the problem is exactly with the Akra Slip On and link pipe for the 08?
Im not going to buy just the slip on, but both, but it seems many people have a problem with a bolt or clamp and a graphite gasket?
If you get both then everything will be perfect.
Calsport 07-13-2011, 10:22 AM Wow guys.. there's a lot of hatred towards the Akrapovic guys here...
FYI: Akrapovic is a European Company which has to sell the "homologated" road legal slip-on, and then the optional decat. pipe separately (which removes the boom box/cat. box).
This is European law!.. Not Akrapovic being awkward! Because the parts are manufactured in the EU, this is the law they must comply with.
The US distributor get the same information as every other distributor in the world (I am from the UK), and we all seem to get the info. right! I suspect any confusion caused here is due to confusion between US and EU law. The US law is not nearly as strict as EU law for emissions/noise (except some States).
Anyone who has already purchased one of these should have received a schematic showing what is included in the box, and details of the optional decat. pipe.
If you didn't, this information is also posted on the Akrapovic website:
ZX10 Akrapovic Schemtic - EU Road Legal Slip-on (http://www.akrapovic.com/typo3conf/ext/user_products/mod1/uploads/products/slip_on_ec_type_approval_exhaust_system_for_the_kawasaki_zx_10r_2008_2009_/kawasaki_zx10_2008_09_so_hom.pdf)
ZX10 Akrapovic Schematic - Race Slip-on (http://www.akrapovic.com/typo3conf/ext/user_products/mod1/uploads/products/slip_on_open_exhaust_system_for_the_kawasaki_zx_10r_2008_2009_/kawasaki_zx10_2008_09_so.pdf)
ZX10 Akrapovic Figures & Data (http://www.akrapovic.com/typo3conf/ext/user_products/mod1/uploads/products/slip_on_ec_type_approval_exhaust_system_for_the_kawasaki_zx_10r_2008_2009_/ka_zx10r_so_2008-2009_doc.pdf)
These schematic diagrams show both slip-on kits have a link-pipe which is permanently fixed to the muffler, and the additional "optional" decat. link-pipe.
Anyone who is unsure, please feel free to get in touch. Here at Calsport, we are a Akrapovic specialist, and we deal in a wide range of Akrapovic spare parts too.
Many thanks
Jamie
http://www.calsport.co.uk/
+44 (0) 845 601 0986
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