Riding with a buddy who has the 08 Honda... we were playing with some roll on's and the ZX10 seemed to really jump harder than the CBR, then at one point the CBR just took off unexpectedly...(maybe we were supposed to race and I didnt know), so I decided to take off after him. I didnt take long to realise that I was reeling him in no problem, and just when i cought up to him he let off. I asked him after if he was opened up all the way.... he said yes. We were both in 3rd on take off and WFO. The ZX10R is definetly a faster bike than the Honda.

Nice story but I would like to hear of a dead even start at different mph and gears, who pulls who where and how long before the Kawi passes the honda any vids anyone?:mrgreen:

I wanted to do a real race.... but I think he is scared of the Kawi to be honest, and I dont blame him:occasion1

LOL Dyno charts compaired the ZX has a whole lot more up top but in the mid range area where most of us slime live the CBR has 10hp on the ZX.. there's been talk that Honda neutered the CBR for the USA and chopped the top but that's just rumors for the time being.. Euro CBR's are stronger than the USA version.

LOL Dyno charts compaired the ZX has a whole lot more up top but in the mid range area where most of us slime live the CBR has 10hp on the ZX.. there's been talk that Honda neutered the CBR for the USA and chopped the top but that's just rumors for the time being.. Euro CBR's are stronger than the USA version. Hmmm, well if thats true..that problem will be solved next week or so when I install a full Akra Evo system:thumbsup:

I forgot to mention... we were on the highway, 2am, no traffic, playing around in 3rd gear, at about 125KPH. So when he took off, thats were we were....and after I took off...I reeled him in no problem

LOL Dyno charts compaired the ZX has a whole lot more up top but in the mid range area where most of us slime live the CBR has 10hp on the ZX.. there's been talk that Honda neutered the CBR for the USA and chopped the top but that's just rumors for the time being.. Euro CBR's are stronger than the USA version. Isn't 125kph in 3rd IN the mid-range, not to mention that morefire said kph not mph, so I'm guessing this isn't the US model... The only nod I'd give the CBR over the 10R this year is the feel/confidence in the bike - but performance numbers, street or track, US or EMEA, go to the 10. Didn't anyone read July's Cycle World? They did a great 0-180mph shootout, which included all the '08 liters, the Duc 1098 and 1098R, the ZX14 and Busa, even a turbo Busa and a Hennessey TT GT500. They tested street, track, and on a runway for straight-line times. Despite the RIDICULOUS numbers the 10R posted, including some of the best times, it got dinged for not feeling solid enough in the turns. The Duc and GSXR got the nods (which is total f-ing bullshit - even though I'm a 10R fan, anyone can objectively see that those 2 perennial favorites are no where NEAR the top this year - the goddam twin Duc was slooooowwww in all counts and peaked at 163mph - only thing worse was the poor aged R1) The CBR is night and day from previous generations, but still not ready - gearing and power curves are not dialed in where they should be, which you proved in your roll-on test. The 10R doesn't just catch the CBR in the race to the top of the dial, it flat-out pounces on it... I'm not shocked you ran down the CBR, but am shocked to not see more fast posts to say that we're not surprised - even in 08

I did a role on with "symantix" he has an 08' cbr. Think we were in second it was a while ago. He jumped out in front of me when we took off. Reeled him in around fourth gear. So my opinion is they do have a little bit more down low.

Remember, that 1000RR rider carries the extra weight of shame for owning the ugliest 1000 ever made. Even the old YZF1000R aka Thunderace looked better.

Remember, that 1000RR rider carries the extra weight of shame for owning the ugliest 1000 ever made. Even the old YZF1000R aka Thunderace looked better. lmao! now we just need the kawi factory riders and racers taking advantage of this new model and getting some solid results (apart from Hacking).

Riding with a buddy who has the 08 Honda... we were playing with some roll on's and the ZX10 seemed to really jump harder than the CBR, then at one point the CBR just took off unexpectedly...(maybe we were supposed to race and I didnt know), so I decided to take off after him. I didnt take long to realise that I was reeling him in no problem, and just when i cought up to him he let off. I asked him after if he was opened up all the way.... he said yes. We were both in 3rd on take off and WFO. The ZX10R is definetly a faster bike than the Honda. I thought this was a well known fact, its been in all the magazines. The honda is supposedly the slowest of the bunch, and the ninja the fastest. so no real surprise you reeled him in to me.

Way to make that Honda remember your tag number dude.

lmao! now we just need the kawi factory riders and racers taking advantage of this new model and getting some solid results (apart from Hacking). I hope to see Kawi finish in the top 10 at Laguna...Hope.

Isn't 125kph in 3rd IN the mid-range, not to mention that morefire said kph not mph, so I'm guessing this isn't the US model... The only nod I'd give the CBR over the 10R this year is the feel/confidence in the bike - but performance numbers, street or track, US or EMEA, go to the 10. Didn't anyone read July's Cycle World? They did a great 0-180mph shootout, which included all the '08 liters, the Duc 1098 and 1098R, the ZX14 and Busa, even a turbo Busa and a Hennessey TT GT500. They tested street, track, and on a runway for straight-line times. Despite the RIDICULOUS numbers the 10R posted, including some of the best times, it got dinged for not feeling solid enough in the turns. The Duc and GSXR got the nods (which is total f-ing bullshit - even though I'm a 10R fan, anyone can objectively see that those 2 perennial favorites are no where NEAR the top this year - the goddam twin Duc was slooooowwww in all counts and peaked at 163mph - only thing worse was the poor aged R1) The CBR is night and day from previous generations, but still not ready - gearing and power curves are not dialed in where they should be, which you proved in your roll-on test. The 10R doesn't just catch the CBR in the race to the top of the dial, it flat-out pounces on it... I'm not shocked you ran down the CBR, but am shocked to not see more fast posts to say that we're not surprised - even in 08 Yep, the 08 ZX10R out ran them all from 0-180, including the Busa and ZX-14. The Honda does have good midrange, but my tach needle gets to 13,000 so fast that I am right thru the midrange and in to the top end and don't even know it. The only problem I have with my 08 is the inability to feed 100% throttle in first gear without it standing up straight, and that actually slows me down. To some degree the same issue exists in 2nd gear. I may go 1 tooth smaller in the back from a 41 to a 40. The Honda was 4 seconds slower than the 0810R in the 0-180 run. Wow thats a lot of time at that speed. JJ

Once the 10R gets up in the revs (above 8K rpms) it's lights out for the CBR or most bikes for that matter.

The only problem I have with my 08 is the inability to feed 100% throttle in first gear without it standing up straight, and that actually slows me down. Isn't there a anti-wheelie device around ? They use them on MotoGP.. Should be awailable for us too :wink:

My 08 must be weak, it barely rolls up in 1st and doesn't even think about coming up in 2nd. I weigh about 150-160 if that matters.

My 08 must be weak, it barely rolls up in 1st and doesn't even think about coming up in 2nd. I weigh about 150-160 if that matters. Your bike must be broken...I weight 190 and my 2nd gen will come if under hard acceleration in 1st and 2nd.

I'm banking on it not being fully broken in yet... I've been running it through the gears some though, that's how the tech I know for Ron Ayers told me to do it. Did anyone notice a considerable increase in power after breaking in their bikes?

if the Honda got nutered for U.S. than the Ten probably did too to an extent. if not in power than in emmissions (weight) which is why the honda supposedly flicks so good. Its a give and take and we took their pride!!!!!

Well from what I hear, the difference in the US and abroad versions of the 1krr is in the ecu, I think something to the tune of 10 horsepower. This makes it seem like the US got the raw end of the deal, but from reading online and talking to a guy I know with a 1000rr, apparently the Euro models are having problems with the cranks, I assume they come apart/disintegrate/warp or whatever other damage a crank could experience...

The CBR is a boat anchor ..... I have walked them down at track days myself. Honda should be ashamed of themselves ..:fu2::lol:

My 08 must be weak, it barely rolls up in 1st and doesn't even think about coming up in 2nd. I weigh about 150-160 if that matters. Going downhill on an interstate entrance ramp in 1st or 2nd my 08 will stand straight up if I give it full throttle by whacking it WFO. Scary shit, and thats going down a grade. I'm 185lbs. My 08 f#cking flys, and is so fast it defies logic. I was doing 3rd gear roll ons Saturday out on the freeway from about 80-??? MPH and that sh!t is just FANTASTIC! Everything about my new 08 is PERFECT now. I am a 100% happy Kawi customer. JJ

Going downhill on an interstate entrance ramp in 1st or 2nd my 08 will stand straight up if I give it full throttle by whacking it WFO. Scary shit, and thats going down a grade. I'm 185lbs. My 08 f#cking flys, and is so fast it defies logic. I was doing 3rd gear roll ons Saturday out on the freeway from about 80-??? MPH and that sh!t is just FANTASTIC! Everything about my new 08 is PERFECT now. I am a 100% happy Kawi customer. JJ well why the hell is mine so weak then? it's definitely not coming up in second, and in first i'm in no danger of getting tossed off the back. I did stunt riding pretty much exclusively before getting this bike though (been riding about 3 years) so maybe I am less sensitive to the front coming up so I don't panic as much.

Day one my bike scared me at how hard it pulled and how the front got light quick.

I guess I have a lemon or my right wrist is broken.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb277/kawasaki1111/trackday7-7-08013.jpg I'LL BEET THAT NEW HONDA ON MY MOTARD BIKE HAHAHA 08 ZX10R IS THE KING !!!!!!!!!!!!!

When I got my 2008, it was between getting that or getting a motard.

I guess I have a lemon or my right wrist is broken. i suspect the wrist is lacking. :wink: BD

I turn the throttle til it stops turning, i'm going to ride it right now.

I turn the throttle til it stops turning, i'm going to ride it right now. just pullin your chain mate :wink: BD

I turn the throttle til it stops turning, i'm going to ride it right now. lol dont hurt yourself

haha, i'm back now, i just had to go beat it a little bit... Unless there is some exaggerating going on, I just think mine is weaker than others. Pinned in 1st it comes up, but I have to shift before it's really high, 2nd gear I got a hint of headshake at the top of the powerband but that was pretty much it... maybe it will keep getting stronger though as I get some more miles on it, I'm not beat yet just a little disappointed that mine doesn't feel like I expected with all the hype.

how much mile do you have on it now?

about 200 haha... i was hesitant to break it in hard, but I talked to a tech who is also a friend of mine and he said to ride it hard, vary rpm, and not hit the rev limiter... which is exactly what I'm doing. It burned a little oil at first, but I'm keeping track of it now and I think it has slowed down, so I assume the rings are sealing well. Like I said, I'm not terribly worried about it, but I am a little let down after reading what others have said about the bike. I have noticed a power increase already though so I assume it's still gonna get stronger.

My bike was sooo stiff when it was brand new... I would give it a quick rev and the rpms would fall instantly as I let off the gas...... It feels MUCH better now at 1300, and getting better every ride

My bike was sooo stiff when it was brand new... I would give it a quick rev and the rpms would fall instantly as I let off the gas...... It feels MUCH better now at 1300, and getting better every ride Yeah, I guess I have that stiffness in mine too now that you mention it. I won't let this bother me until I get some more miles under her belt.

Put some Pilot Power's on that 10 and the nose will lift like a jet!

jee who on earth can do full throttle in 1st gear, my Bike will defenetly flip over ?

THat is what I am saying...If I open my bike up that thing will kill me and a few others.

THat is what I am saying...If I open my bike up that thing will kill me and a few others. :+1: I love it.

jee who on earth can do full throttle in 1st gear, my Bike will defenetly flip over ? :+1: Agreed. To bad there is no safe way to try it! :lol: I'm not ashamed at all to admit there is no way in hell I can feed full throttle in 1st gear om my 08 and hold it without fear of flipping. It has almost happened. Where is "the hate" at? I bet he can do it! :idea: JJ

I'm telling you, I had it til it stopped turning in 1st last night, and I'm not saying I'm a super rider, I just think my bike has less power now for whatever reason.

:+1: Agreed. To bad there is no safe way to try it! :lol: I'm not ashamed at all to admit there is no way in hell I can feed full throttle in 1st gear om my 08 and hold it without fear of flipping. It has almost happened. Where is "the hate" at? I bet he can do it! :idea: JJ simple just play with the clutch!

The Honda has a much beefier midrange. I'm surprised you reeled him in that quickly.

I lowered mine 1" front and 2" rear just to be able to experience first. It still comes up first and a tad shake on second. May be a different story when the Akra, filter, and PCIII go on in 2 weeks.

The Honda has a much beefier midrange. I'm surprised you reeled him in that quickly. not enough to matter really, ala g1k since 02 has been the mid-range ruler but it gets handled on the top end. BD