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Kwaky
09-22-2006, 05:57 PM
Well here is the deal. I got Carrozzeria Rims Gold Forged Aluminum. 4 days of owning them they start shredding Bearings at 100mph heading to San Diego. however for the 4 days I had them. (apparently it's a flaw in bushing size?) A L O T Of fun. However that is on the Old 05 ZX10 not the newest n coolest 06 but she has quite the personality with those rims. price? Rims tires (qualifiers) mounted and balanced with K&N Air Filter and New HP Plugs was 2091.00(including taxes.)

ZXTOM
09-22-2006, 06:00 PM
Nice!............

Big Daddy
09-22-2006, 06:18 PM
shredding bearings!! :eyecrazy: and how was this problem handled by Carrozzeria or the Retailer?? BD

Kwaky
09-22-2006, 07:05 PM
Carrozzeria had them send back the old kit sent out a brand new kit with updated bearings. Supposedly it's been fixed and I got an old kit? yah not happy. I'm hoping to get it back tomorrow. Sucks to have to drive to LA to pick it up. Anyone know other than cornering what other effects the MUCH lighter rims will effect? Top end acceleration? (front end comes up a little faster yah)

djblacksuperman
09-22-2006, 07:33 PM
man... those are nice, and they seem fairly affordable compared to some of the 1's i've been looking at.....

ZiG 9th
09-22-2006, 07:39 PM
I like the design of the spokes, but the gold? :badteeth: Not a fan of gold rims.......:headshake Those wheels in chrome on the titantium 10? Would look sick! :idea: :beer:

livnpaintball
09-22-2006, 07:44 PM
They look sweet...

hongthaomurphy
09-22-2006, 09:15 PM
[quote=ZiG 9th]I like the design of the spokes, but the gold? :badteeth: Not a fan of gold rims.......:headshake Those wheels in chrome on the titantium 10? Would look sick! :idea: :beer:[/quote IF he chromed the wheels wouldnt that defeat the purpose of getting lighter wheels in the first place? itd be a waste.

deezuhl
09-22-2006, 09:32 PM
Carrozzeria had them send back the old kit sent out a brand new kit with updated bearings. Supposedly it's been fixed and I got an old kit? yah not happy. I'm hoping to get it back tomorrow. Sucks to have to drive to LA to pick it up. Anyone know other than cornering what other effects the MUCH lighter rims will effect? Top end acceleration? (front end comes up a little faster yah) keep in mind those are forged aluminum not magnesium.. they are not much lighter than stock if at all. I have them on my 06' 1000rr.. front exact same weight, rear 2 lbs less with lighter sprocket and wave rotor.. not taking anything away from this guys bike just making you guys aware that the 1000 wheels nowdays are very light and unless you get magnesium you wont see much.. good luck!!

speedfreak
09-22-2006, 10:48 PM
I thought that 2 pounds on a wheel was a ton of weight difference.

treyzx10r
09-22-2006, 10:54 PM
Carrozzeria had them send back the old kit sent out a brand new kit with updated bearings. Supposedly it's been fixed and I got an old kit? yah not happy. I'm hoping to get it back tomorrow. Sucks to have to drive to LA to pick it up. Anyone know other than cornering what other effects the MUCH lighter rims will effect? Top end acceleration? (front end comes up a little faster yah) I got the Marvic Puimas and the weight saving's alone made this the best mod I've done. You should notice quite a bit even with forged aluminum remember this is spinning weight you're trimming down:thumbsup:

deezuhl
09-22-2006, 11:04 PM
I thought that 2 pounds on a wheel was a ton of weight difference. wasnt very noticeable on my 1000rr.. the 2lbs really depends where are the wheel it shed the 2lbs.. if its near the outer its very noticeable. if its closer to the hub you wont notice anything.. sorry to say but i disagree hugely with those claims you read everywhere that 1oz rotatational mass lost is equal to XXXlbs.. back in the day if you swapped a set of stock busa wheels for a set of mag wheels you picked up 4-5 bikes over stock. the wheels today are very light. look at how hollow the hub is on the zx-10. the cz wheels are solid hub.. btw. the marvic piuma is lighter than the CZ wheels last i checked.. we have compared wheels here many times in straightline.. 06 gsxr 1000 picked up 1-1.5 bike length and thats about it over stock when racing just under a mile..

speedfreak
09-23-2006, 12:03 AM
Not trying to argue cause I really don't know, just asking questions here. But if the cz wheels are solid hub and the stock wheels are hollow hub then the cz wheels would be heavier near the center. If the wheel is 2 lbs lighter overall and the hub is heavier then wouldn't that mean that the rim area of the wheel (where it matters more) would be alot lighter than stock? I'm more of a corner guy anyway and I've been told that the lighter wheel has less gyro effect on the bike and it will corner better. Also cant beat the looks.

deezuhl
09-23-2006, 08:19 AM
Not trying to argue cause I really don't know, just asking questions here. But if the cz wheels are solid hub and the stock wheels are hollow hub then the cz wheels would be heavier near the center. If the wheel is 2 lbs lighter overall and the hub is heavier then wouldn't that mean that the rim area of the wheel (where it matters more) would be alot lighter than stock? I'm more of a corner guy anyway and I've been told that the lighter wheel has less gyro effect on the bike and it will corner better. Also cant beat the looks. yeah the cz is solid hub but i cant tell exactly where all the weight is on each wheel. it has alot more spokes than my 1000rr 3 spoke wheels and also more than the zx10.. i can tell you i had marchesini magnesium on my 02 gsxr 750 and it was night and day difference handling (gyro) and accelration. same as my 01 busa that i had dymag mag wheels on.. my 1000rr i just didnt notice much difference.. especially since the from wheel was same weight exact and the rear lost probably 3/4 of a lb out of the 2lbs just from the wave rotor and aluminum spocket. real weight loss on the rear wheel was probably more like 1.25lbs if that. you cannot beat the looks and forged mag is stronger than stock as well. im just pointing out that if you are spring some $$$ for wheels if you wanna save alot of weight youll need to go magnesium or carbon these days. good luck

bonz
09-23-2006, 08:28 AM
I like the design of the spokes, but the gold? :badteeth: Not a fan of gold rims.......:headshake Those wheels in chrome on the titantium 10? Would look sick! :idea: :beer: That's my boy! Keep pushing the chrome! :thumbsup: I agree like the rim, not fond of the gold, but won't hate either. Brushed or polished would be nice! Sorry to hear about the bearings, hope they take care of you.

speedfreak
09-23-2006, 09:25 AM
will magnesium or CF wheels hold up on the street very well?

Big Daddy
09-23-2006, 10:46 AM
I like the design of the spokes, but the gold? :badteeth: Not a fan of gold rims.......:headshake Those wheels in chrome on the titantium 10 Would look sick! :idea: :beer: ahhhhhhhhh yea they would look sick and make me sick :puke: alright.:crackup: BD

Gunner
09-23-2006, 11:25 AM
Brad at SuperBike Supply pulled the last group buy on these wheels the best I can recall due to wheel spacer problems that CZ wasn't willing to fix. They knew they had a problem and wouldn't fix it. I do know Brad likes these wheels but wouldn't sell anymore till they FIXED the problem. It looks like it's still NOT fixed. If I were you Brad would be the first guy I ask about this issue. He'll have the inside track on what you're looking for. Bearing failures at speed can lead to a BAD day.

Zega
09-23-2006, 02:49 PM
They look good!

MachWon
09-23-2006, 10:29 PM
will magnesium or CF wheels hold up on the street very well? I emailed Marvic about their titanium wheels for the street and they replied they are very strong but their corrosion properties were not ideal for all conditions and to be aware of that

deezuhl
09-24-2006, 12:17 AM
will magnesium or CF wheels hold up on the street very well? ive street ridden on both my dymags on my busa and marchesini's on my gsxr 750 and never had an issue.. if you like to wheelie alot i wouldnt recommend it but if you ride with both wheels on the ground and live where there arent huge potholes then youll be fine.. about 5 guys i know right now ride on mag wheels every week on the street w/o issue.

garth285
09-24-2006, 11:09 AM
I had a set of carbon's on my bike and I might be putting them back on but that was one hell of a differnece on those rims! I would rather go for marchisini mags though.....their 10 spoke is supposed to be lighter than their 5 spoke but I like a 5 spoke look, mabey if I an get them painted a different color I would go with them.

Zega
09-24-2006, 04:01 PM
Carbon's musta been sweet, got any pics with them on?

AKATH
09-24-2006, 05:49 PM
\However that is on the Old 05 ZX10 not the newest n coolest 06 \) The 04 05 zx 10 are way better then the 06, the 06 corner like a tank capered to the 04 05 and the head lights are ugly as sin .....

deezuhl
09-24-2006, 05:54 PM
The 04 05 zx 10 are way better then the 06, the 06 corner like a tank capered to the 04 05 and the head lights are ugly as sin ..... some of us dont give a shit about the corners.. the 06 is superior on top end.. the front nose, ram air design, tucked exhaust and larger fairings are some of the things that make the 06 superior..

AKATH
09-24-2006, 05:56 PM
some of us dont give a shit about the corners.. the 06 is superior on top end.. the front nose, ram air design, tucked exhaust and larger fairings are some of the things that make the 06 superior.. Calm down killer.... didn't mean to offend anyone :wink: and im not big on going in a straight line

atsbb1
09-24-2006, 06:32 PM
The 04 05 zx 10 are way better then the 06, the 06 corner like a tank capered to the 04 05 and the head lights are ugly as sin ..... And you have owned and ridden both? I have owned and ridden both and neither turns like a tank. The 06 has a much better feel in the turns and is actually confidence inspiring and I can take the same turns much faster on my 06 than I could on my 04. I loved the 04 too though, both are great bikes I just hate reading all the misinformation on these boards sometimes. The 06 in no way handles like a tank, unless there is a new super light rocket powered tank that I don't know about:dontknow:.

AKATH
09-24-2006, 06:38 PM
And you have owned and ridden both? I have owned and ridden both and neither turns like a tank. The 06 has a much better feel in the turns and is actually confidence inspiring and I can take the same turns much faster on my 06 than I could on my 04. I loved the 04 too though, both are great bikes I just hate reading all the misinformation on these boards sometimes. The 06 in no way handles like a tank, unless there is a new superlight rocket like tank that I don't know about:dontknow:. yes I have road both the 06 is a great bike but I do like the way the 04 05 handles it turns in much faster the the 06 "I was on", and I set the suspension up on both bikes, I'm in no way doggin the 06 they just tweaked the geometry a bit too much in the wrong direction in my opinion . and your right I may have embellished a bit with the tank comment but it does feel heavier on the turn in...

hotee
09-24-2006, 06:49 PM
:popcorn: :boxing: I like the wheels, I have the same ones....tho they were on the bike when I got it. I like chrome too! Oh and I like curves and straight away roads!! Opinions are like........... Carry on

deezuhl
09-24-2006, 06:56 PM
Calm down killer.... didn't mean to offend anyone :wink: and im not big on going in a straight line no offense taken.. im just pointing out reasons why i prefer the 06. i would never own the 04-05 for what i like to do.. im eyeing the 07 gixxer all black right now too..

Vince10R
09-25-2006, 07:47 PM
not a big fan of gold but they look nice:thumbsup:

Kwaky
09-25-2006, 08:09 PM
Yah I can't stand gold myself. However it's not at all shiny and truth be told. In person they just set the bike OFF. I don't like glitter gold or chrome on my bikes. Make it work. I did put a few miles on them I can say this. I held the same off ramp with less effort at 110 from 85 before.(yes I like to lean the bike occasionally and I like balls out straight line fire outta my ass stuff to) I did notice a big difference in turn in.(total rotaional loss per the scale we used was 3.9 lbs. The rims? Well apparently Carrozzeria is "investigating" the problem. I may have to go back to stockers for now and just invest the money in motor work and dyno time.

ZiG 9th
09-27-2006, 11:56 PM
That's my boy! Keep pushing the chrome! :thumbsup: I agree like the rim, not fond of the gold, but won't hate either. Brushed or polished would be nice! Sorry to hear about the bearings, hope they take care of you. Nooo0o.....doubt! The chrome coalition in full effect!! :occasion1

ZiG 9th
09-28-2006, 12:32 AM
:popcorn: :boxing: I like the wheels, I have the same ones....tho they were on the bike when I got it. I like chrome too! Oh and I like curves and straight away roads!! Opinions are like........... Carry on Hotee iz too kool! U can't be mad at her, she refuses to be painted with just one brush! :lol: Alot kooler than that wack Gixxer Vixxen chic! She sux!

ZiG 9th
09-28-2006, 12:41 AM
I like balls out straight line fire outta my ass stuff to) lmao!!!!!!!! That was too funny!!! :crackup:

lexusrx
09-28-2006, 01:37 AM
Yah I can't stand gold myself. However it's not at all shiny and truth be told. In person they just set the bike OFF. I don't like glitter gold or chrome on my bikes. Make it work. I did put a few miles on them I can say this. I held the same off ramp with less effort at 110 from 85 before.(yes I like to lean the bike occasionally and I like balls out straight line fire outta my ass stuff to) I did notice a big difference in turn in.(total rotaional loss per the scale we used was 3.9 lbs. The rims? Well apparently Carrozzeria is "investigating" the problem. I may have to go back to stockers for now and just invest the money in motor work and dyno time. i would HIGHLY suggest you take your $$$ and put it elsewhere. get your $$$ back from them while you have that option available.i had these wheels on two of my bikes. i ran into spacer issues with both bikes. i sold alot of them to customers as well. about 6 months after i started selling the wheels customers started calling and telling me of problems. i would contact carrozzeria and have them ship out new spacers. i ended up taking my wheels to a local motorcycle shop that had a lathe. they corrected the problem and i sent the measurements for the spacers to carrozzeria. 6 months AFTER sending them the measurements, customers were STILL having problems. i will NOT sell their wheels anymore. they are still "investigating" the spacer issue. im sure they will "investigate" the bearing problem as well. the spacers that come with their wheels are too long, in most cases. what that does is push the rotor to one side of the caliper. every time you hit the brakes the calipers are pushing the friction plate of the rotor to one side. over time this wallows the rings out that hold the friction plate to the carrier. imagine what would happen to you if you're doing 130 mph and jam on the brakes to slow down and the friction plate snaps off the carrier. i promise you it wouldnt be a pretty site. both of these "issues" can and are very dangerous. the wheels are priced lower than other brands but is the savings really worth the risk of being injured? one other thing. the wheels are dot approved but what most people dont know is the dot inspection is of the wheel itself ONLY. the spacers/bearings/rotor mounts are not included in the testing. just because its dot approved dont mean shit if the hardware that goes with it is shit.

truebudo
09-28-2006, 09:14 AM
I've actually been thinking about Akro full system and full custom map ..PCIII the whole works...but I heard that it will void the warranty. So, I'm considering lighter rims...

Zega
09-28-2006, 09:25 AM
:idea:

Zega
09-28-2006, 09:38 AM
i would HIGHLY suggest you take your $$$ and put it elsewhere. get your $$$ back from them while you have that option available.i had these wheels on two of my bikes. i ran into spacer issues with both bikes. i sold alot of them to customers as well. about 6 months after i started selling the wheels customers started calling and telling me of problems. i would contact carrozzeria and have them ship out new spacers. i ended up taking my wheels to a local motorcycle shop that had a lathe. they corrected the problem and i sent the measurements for the spacers to carrozzeria. 6 months AFTER sending them the measurements, customers were STILL having problems. i will NOT sell their wheels anymore. they are still "investigating" the spacer issue. im sure they will "investigate" the bearing problem as well. the spacers that come with their wheels are too long, in most cases. what that does is push the rotor to one side of the caliper. every time you hit the brakes the calipers are pushing the friction plate of the rotor to one side. over time this wallows the rings out that hold the friction plate to the carrier. imagine what would happen to you if you're doing 130 mph and jam on the brakes to slow down and the friction plate snaps off the carrier. i promise you it wouldnt be a pretty site. both of these "issues" can and are very dangerous. the wheels are priced lower than other brands but is the savings really worth the risk of being injured? one other thing. the wheels are dot approved but what most people dont know is the dot inspection is of the wheel itself ONLY. the spacers/bearings/rotor mounts are not included in the testing. just because its dot approved dont mean shit if the hardware that goes with it is shit. Dayum that musta been a biaaatch dealing with all the returns not to mention, as you said, the safety risk! What a crap product.:headshake

eric
09-28-2006, 09:42 AM
some of us dont give a shit about the corners.. the 06 is superior on top end.. the front nose, ram air design, tucked exhaust and larger fairings are some of the things that make the 06 superior..:headshake the 06's suck

truebudo
09-28-2006, 10:12 AM
:helmet: They suck compared to what...a m-16?

truebudo
09-28-2006, 10:26 AM
:BangHead: And so what is the conclusion here? For street...and twisties through the canyons..what is the best rim type in you guys opinion?

Zega
09-28-2006, 11:49 AM
:headshake the 06's suck :::sigh:::

deezuhl
09-28-2006, 12:39 PM
:headshake the 06's suck bring your 04-05 out and that will suck is the exhaust from my 06.. LOL