hi every1, ok so my 09 gen 3 has very little get up and go from a standing start I suspect it is because the racecams the previous owner installed, so im asking what is the best mod i could do to increase drive. im thinking of a power commander but not sure if that would increase bottom end torque

hi every1, ok so my 09 gen 3 has very little get up and go from a standing start I suspect it is because the racecams the previous owner installed, so im asking what is the best mod i could do to increase drive. im thinking of a power commander but not sure if that would increase bottom end torque change sprocket.... but it will take away from top end. if you dont have a gen 4 you will need a speedo healer to correct the difference on your gauges.

hi every1, ok so my 09 gen 3 has very little get up and go from a standing start I suspect it is because the racecams the previous owner installed, so im asking what is the best mod i could do to increase drive. im thinking of a power commander but not sure if that would increase bottom end torque -1 front sprocket will help alot but in the range of idle to 3k ... your not going to improve this .. i take it your coming off of a 600 huh

-1 front sprocket will help alot but in the range of idle to 3k ... your not going to improve this .. i take it your coming off of a 600 huh my last bike was a 2007 fz1 fazer

change sprocket.... but it will take away from top end. if you dont have a gen 4 you will need a speedo healer to correct the difference on your gauges. i'll look into the sprocket but i don't like the idea of changing the bikes overall speed, when the bikes rolling theirs no problem its when its at a stop (especially going up a hill) the lack of low mid torque appears (again i think its a side effect of the racecams). as it is i would rev to roughly 3500 rpm's and let the clutch out; at that point the bike begins to creep forward and I would just hold the clutch their for about 2 - 3 seconds which is way to long.. And if I let the clutch out anymore the engine will bog down into a stall.. Sorry for the rant, I do love my bike; it makes 200hp at the crank before ram-air as a result of the two bros full race exhaust and again the racecams its just starting from a dead stop that im not particularly proud of.

it's always a trade off

after reading a some threads about changing the sprocket size including the (10 best parts for the zx10r) sticky thread. i think i will go down that path and get a 16t front sprocket and with speedohealer which brings me to some new questions. #1. if i install a 16t front sprocket will the bike accelerate and wheelie easier? #2. how much will the top speed be lowered? #3. what is the best brand of sprocket to buy? #4. what brand speedohealer works best?

I say get rid of the race cams and put stock ones in, unless you are racing.

after reading a some threads about changing the sprocket size including the (10 best parts for the zx10r) sticky thread. i think i will go down that path and get a 16t front sprocket and with speedohealer which brings me to some new questions. #1. if i install a 16t front sprocket will the bike accelerate and wheelie easier? #2. how much will the top speed be lowered? #3. what is the best brand of sprocket to buy? #4. what brand speedohealer works best? #1 yes, #2 10 - 15 mph, #3 get a stock z1000 16t sprocket.

thanks a bunch for the reply guys

You've got race cams and no tune?? Well, if it's the case, of course it will not work correctly!! I've got the race cams in my 3Gen engine and I've got tons more midrange than before!! but of course it was properly tuned with power comander and ignition module...

You've got race cams and no tune?? Well, if it's the case, of course it will not work correctly!! I've got the race cams in my 3Gen engine and I've got tons more midrange than before!! but of course it was properly tuned with power comander and ignition module... o rly.. hmmn..

You've got race cams and no tune?? Well, if it's the case, of course it will not work correctly!! I've got the race cams in my 3Gen engine and I've got tons more midrange than before!! but of course it was properly tuned with power comander and ignition module... i thought the fuelling on my zx10 would have been sorted because the two brothers juice box is installed, perhaps im wrong :dontknow:

And if your bike has the kit cams installed it should have a power commander already. Like everyone said, sprockets will solve your problem

#2 10 - 15 mph that much?

:+1:should have a power commander already. Like everyone said, sprockets will solve your problem

You'll not loose 15mph off your top end by dropping a tooth in the front I don't believe.....maybe half that. You want the bike to have more oomph? Drop one in the front a d possibly go up one or two in the rear....maybe install a tre and get a good map in the commander. 1/5th throttle insert wouldn't hurt either.

change sprocket.... but it will take away from top end. if you dont have a gen 4 you will need a speedo healer to correct the difference on your gauges. Are you saying that if you do have a Gen 4 you can change the gearing without a speedo healer?

Are you saying that if you do have a Gen 4 you can change the gearing without a speedo healer? The speedo healer is just to show the correct mph on the dash, swap the front sprocket out and let the good times roll my man!!

The speedo healer is just to show the correct mph on the dash, swap the front sprocket out and let the good times roll my man!! Oh the gen 4 you dont need a speedo healer because it reads the speed of the wheel, thru the traction control sensor. So sprockets wont affect the speedo

not to be a D-bag here... but I think it's kind of funny how some will the TOP SPEED card on sprockets... Honestly, how often and LONG do you hold that throttle open in 6th gear to go 165+mph....ALL THE TIME... Is it really ALL about bragging right as to who go faster for a hole 5 seconds. What it REALLY should be about is the proper set for the type of riding your doing... My 16t was a GREAT benefit for my canyon/street/track riding... Made my bike a hole lot better to ride. Again, no offence to any one here... My bubby who has an 07 R1 complains all the time of the same issue as our 10r's and won't change his front for his life... "It takes away from my top speed"... Granted he is 5ft-5/6 with a good size short man complex.

not to be a D-bag here... but I think it's kind of funny how some will the TOP SPEED card on sprockets... Honestly, how often and LONG do you hold that throttle open in 6th gear to go 165+mph....ALL THE TIME... Is it really ALL about bragging right as to who go faster for a hole 5 seconds. What it REALLY should be about is the proper set for the type of riding your doing... My 16t was a GREAT benefit for my canyon/street/track riding... Made my bike a hole lot better to ride. Again, no offence to any one here... My bubby who has an 07 R1 complains all the time of the same issue as our 10r's and won't change his front for his life... "It takes away from my top speed"... Granted he is 5ft-5/6 with a good size short man complex. so true

Degree the cams

Degree the cams Beat me to it.

How's the clutch and slack in the cable? Could've been some brilliant mind running the cable to tight and toasted the clutch prematurely?

-1,+2 u wont notice anything with just -1

yeah, still want to do a +1 on the rear too...that would be perfect for me

You've got a two brothers juice box, not a power comander? Is it well tuned? is it as good as a PC? My engine is a real beast and pull like a freight train with the race cams at every rpm, and midrange are really awesome with 17x40, even in six gear it pulls very very strong!! So for me (I maybe wrong) it's not well tuned or the cams are not well degreed, or not even in the engine?

my m8 went down one on the front and up one on the rear and he saw a big difference!

-1,+2 u wont notice anything with just -1 yeah i'm probably going to do the -1 front sprocket and maybe even add a +1 or +2 sprok on the rear just because i like the idea of having shorter gearing for more useability/acceleration on the road, hopefully doing this mod will give me the bottom end ive been craving all along. power commanders something i will do in the future when funds allow.

i'll report back after the mod; thanks all the feedbacks appreciated.

search the threads for -1,+2=crazy thats what made me finally do it. mine felt like an old man off the line but after i changed it, it was like a whole nother animal. I love it! after the swap ive had it wheelie at 130 shiftin from 4th to 5th with me layin on the tank. I read the -1,+1 inst anything to write home abt but +2 in the rear is legit. u dont lose much off top end either, atleast i didnt, i bought a speedohealer and had a cop i know do mulitple radar runs to get good numbers to dial it in and i can read 190 now. Speedohealer eliminates the top speed limiter on our bikes, it used to stop at 186...also check ebay frequently for deals. I found my PC for $160 along with a perfect tank for $200 with the fuel pump rather than 800 new from kawi

Oh the gen 4 you dont need a speedo healer because it reads the speed of the wheel, thru the traction control sensor. So sprockets wont affect the speedo Yep this is what i was talking about with the gen 4 :occasion1

I don't know what the hell is going on but I can clutch up 3rd with the stock gearing.

if you think -1 gearing isnt enough your crazy .. my bike pulls little wheelies in nd 3rd an sometimes 4th and will flip the bike over in first and 2nd

:+1: bike pulls like a freight train with -1.if you think -1 gearing isnt enough your crazy .. my bike pulls little wheelies in nd 3rd an sometimes 4th and will flip the bike over in first and 2nd

#1 yes, #2 10 - 15 mph, #3 get a stock z1000 16t sprocket. :+1::thumbsup: Nailed it.

my last bike was a 2007 fz1 fazer Like i said .. Coming off a 600 lol

I don't know what the hell is going on but I can clutch up 3rd with the stock gearing. Can I ask you a question? WHY ..Why would you want to pull a clutch wheelie in 3rd ? Do you realize how much travel there is in third - fourth after disengaged .. Do you want to snap teeth on your tranny gears:idea:

ok guys i went to see my mechanic today to install a +1 rear sprocket (41 is stock) that he gave to me for free and it is definitely an improvement, their is more drive at all revs; also pulling away from a stop is much easier, the speedo however is off by 5kph but a speedohealer can fix that. so now i'm waiting for the 16t front sprok (from the 04 z1000) to come in stock. but yes im alot more happy with my bike and i cant wait for the 16t front!

You've got race cams and no tune?? Well, if it's the case, of course it will not work correctly!! I've got the race cams in my 3Gen engine and I've got tons more midrange than before!! but of course it was properly tuned with power comander and ignition module... +1 Glad you got it sorted with the +1 rear sprocket, but you may want to check on this so called race cam you supposedly have. Hard to imagine you have it but no tune? I don't think a simple reflash would be enough for a race cam. I could be wrong though, but my thoughts were that reflash's were limited on just how much they could do.

I would also do the 1/5 throttle mod... pretty nice difference for the expense. I think it's like $25 if my memory serves. I went -1 +2 & 1/5 mod at the same time (I have a gen 2 so it might be a little different) and it felt like a completely different bike!!!

+1 Glad you got it sorted with the +1 rear sprocket, but you may want to check on this so called race cam you supposedly have. Hard to imagine you have it but no tune? I don't think a simple reflash would be enough for a race cam. I could be wrong though, but my thoughts were that reflash's were limited on just how much they could do. i have not physically seen the race cams but before i bought the bike the dealer owner told me it was installed by the his mechanic of which also told me it was installed.. and their is a distinctive exhaust note at idle which is a slow off beat pulse instead of the normal humming sound most inline-4's make.

-1 in front is equal to +3 in the rear FYI .. and if yiu want -1/+2 gearing you can also do +5 rear .. Lil tidbit for ya.. I have -1/0 or 16/40 now but going to -1/+1 16/41 for just a lil more BOOM ..

i have not physically seen the race cams but before i bought the bike the dealer owner told me it was installed by the his mechanic of which also told me it was installed.. and their is a distinctive exhaust note at idle which is a slow off beat pulse instead of the normal humming sound most inline-4's make. Idk abt the sound of it, mine doesnt have cams and it deff has a lope to it instead of a hum so i wouldnt necesarally go by the sound of the bike.

Slip the damn clutch and learn to ride...gear it if need be but more than not its you, not the bike!

here are some pics of my baby, hope u guys like..

Slip the damn clutch and learn to ride...gear it if need be but more than not its you, not the bike! sorry but this post is really unhelpful

ok guys i went to see my mechanic today to install a +1 rear sprocket (41 is stock) that he gave to me for free and it is definitely an improvement, their is more drive at all revs; also pulling away from a stop is much easier, the speedo however is off by 5kph but a speedohealer can fix that. so now i'm waiting for the 16t front sprok (from the 04 z1000) to come in stock. but yes im alot more happy with my bike and i cant wait for the 16t front! FYI without a speedo healer not only is your speed going to be off but it will make your odometer off over time too. you are traveling 5kph off an hour so your odometer will go up that much every hour you ride more than what you are really doing. also your bike will not be off by 5kph. it should be off a percentage. higher speeds should be more off then lower speeds. glad you like it and it worked for you. :occasion1

FYI without a speedo healer not only is your speed going to be off but it will make your odometer off over time too. you are traveling 5kph off an hour so your odometer will go up that much every hour you ride more than what you are really doing. also your bike will not be off by 5kph. it should be off a percentage. higher speeds should be more off then lower speeds. glad you like it and it worked for you. :occasion1 cheers man, im still waiting on the 16t front sprocket to come in stock tho; checking on monday if its available..

I am having a hard time tracking down some parts for the 2011. Do you guys know whether the 2008-10 sprockets will fit the 2011?

I am having a hard time tracking down some parts for the 2011. Do you guys know whether the 2008-10 sprockets will fit the 2011? Yes they are:occasion1 http://www.sprocketcenter.com/c/16206/1/zx-10r-04-11.html